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https://www.guitarscratchremover.com/
I've used this product on 3 different guitars now, 1 of which was a RainSong Shorty. I had a 1.5 in." deep scratch that this product pulled out wonderfully. I used it to make the guitar flawless for resale. It also took care of the belt rash on the back. There are 2 different solutions that have a micro abrasive in it. One is used for deeper marring and the other for more superficial marring. I've also used it on a finish that I did my self called "Tru-Oil' on my Martin. It pulled a scratch out of that too. It is amazing product that has zero silicone, and that is something important to me. I can't recommend it highly enough.
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The problem with silicone is that once it is used it is very hard to work through/with, if not impossible. The polyurethane used by most guitar manufacturers doesn't have silicone but once you wax with it..... Eternashine works on poly, Tru-Oil, nitrocellulose, and possibly others. I bet you will like it. Good luck whatever you choose and congrats on your RainSong. Great guitars!
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Dbone, I admire your patience in all of this. I understand that you just want to take care of the finish issues, and move on.
But, in all my time here on the AGF, I cannot imagine any purchaser of an equivalent value wood guitar being anywhere near so willing to accommodate a manufacturer's poor quality control with anywhere near the same grace. When you're spending this much money, the finish, on delivery, should be pretty much flawless, IMHO. Happy polishing!
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What RP said about filling the scratch, rubbing it out, auto polish.
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I hear ya...With this level of money comes certain expectations...sounds like you and I are similar...I expect a lot... I don’t know what it is...I think my heart is more in the wood world...Let’s put it this way...If my LL56 arrives in any other condition besides perfection there will be problems :-0. Based on what I know about how Yamaha operates, particularly at that level of product, I’m not concerned. Barring some sort of problem in transit, I’m not expecting any such problems with their product.
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The more I peruse this thread, the more mystified I become. I've conservatively owned a dozen Rainsongs, mostly at the lower end of their range except for my newish V-DR1100N2. Maybe I just don't look close enough at the finish, but I've never seen the finish issues that Dbone has on back-to-back upper end Rainsongs. I don't mean to imply or suggest anything but just to say that I'm mystified...
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I once owned a new D-45V. It was factory fresh via Elderly Instruments. I was still working as an engineering VP and was approaching being an out-of-control perfectionist (important in engineering as manufacturing broken stuff is not good unless you're Microsoft :~).
I found loads of cosmetic defects that I would not see today The gloss finish was not well polished over the grained ivoroid binding, several very small dings in the top that were not filled prior to finishing, and an end pin inlay that was truly "hand made". I find my RainSongs to have been pretty near perfect to the new me. I did return one for too many loose fibers along the back seem. I do think we expect too much from CF fabric which is surprising given our experience with the randomness of wood. Lots of opaque finish seems to be the CF solution and my V-DR certainly benefits from that. In the right light I can find polishing defects in anything.
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I STAND CORRECTED!
I was at practice today with my V-DR. In the lighting in my duo partner's practice room swirl marks were visible on the back and sides. The top and neck were clean. There was a single bright incandescent bulb in the overhead ceiling fan fixture.
Now that I'm home I've dragged the guitar around a few rooms in my house, including my guitar repair bench, and the swirl marks are gone. My house is entirely LED lighting with multiple small bulbs or shades on single bulbs. Even my workbench is lit with eight 60 watt equivalent LED bulbs. Each of those bulbs are the old style flat Philips bulb where numerous individual LEDs are visible. I guess the person I was years ago, like with the D-45V, would be going to the autoparts store for a fine polishing kit. Luckily I'm a changed man because I would first have to go buy a light where I can reliably see it...
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At that time we also looked at the finish of a few other new guitars in the same unforgiving light. They looked perfectly fine. Those lights did not lie. The amount of scratching on this guitar is insane relative to what should be there on a factory fresh new instrument. In more normal lighting it is more tolerable to the eye, but it is definitely still there. I would suggest that if some of you guys put your RainSongs in the same brutal lighting conditions you might learn something about your guitar that you don’t already know... But again, if in practical terms I can clean things up myself if I feel the need then fine, and if in average light conditions it’s not that bad then I guess it’s not the end of the world. I’m confident that most, of not all, will buff out if and when I choose to do so...Just the one deeper scratch that I have some concerns about, but I have some faith that this one will buff out reasonable well too...
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They are likely using a really hard poly finish. Taylor long ago reformulated their poly to be softer. Taylor PR said it was to be closer to nitro but my guess is it is easier to polish. A less durable soft nitro-like finish on a CF guitar does not make sense (there are no vintage CF guitars with nitro to emulate). The black background is also a tough venue for gloss. My clear pickguards (I've made low tack and static cling versions) look great on spruce and never look as good close up on black CF (every tiny air bubble is visible where they are invisible on my partner's Taylor). I think the V-DR top is likely no better than the back. It just isn't black and you can't see it. The neck probably is the same but the convex curved surface does not give you the flat surface to see fine defects. My new black Fender Strat has swirl marks I can see in the same lighting that the RainSongs look perfect.
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