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There is one thing about this whole story that I continue not to understand, maybe you can help in giving your opinion: we are talking about quality control, right? Ok, now how many guitars Emerald ship on an average day? Three, four, five? Maybe more. But the limit seems to be the over 20 guitars that were ready to be shipped before the holidays, as per Alistair's video during which he takes each guitar on his hands and describes it. Now, how much time do you need to see all the flaws that the OP's guitar has ? A few minutes, no more. Therefore, even if you have 20 guitars to ship on one day, how long does it takes to inspect them carefully? One hour, maybe two hours.
That is why I find not acceptable that THAT guitar was shipped, because either it was not checked, which doesn't make sense considering the limited volume of guitars built, or it was checked and it passed the inspection, which is even worse. Maybe Alistair will be able not only to take care of the OP' issue, but also to explain us how it happened. I have an X20 in my future, but would hate to find myself in the same situation as the OP. Last edited by gerardo1000; 12-30-2018 at 09:04 PM. |
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I find it amusing that suddenly everyone knows how to run a guitar factory.
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I didn't say that I know how to run a guitar factory, I said that there is one thing that I do not understand, I explained my reasoning and asked other forum members to help with their opinion, not with their sarcasm.
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I have two Emeralds, I'll have one more. I have one of their 3K+ customs too. If I had those "problems", I'd ask for them to be fixed or the guitar replaced. No biggie, it's a custom guitar, but it's just a guitar, not the end of the world. They can make another.
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I also would have been slower on the trigger because it is the holiday and folks are off. On the other hand (and I have two of them) I fully understand the disappointment that comes with opening a guitar that either isn't what you ordered or has a quality issue. As I noted, I ordered a custom electric with SA and Ghost Piezo and pickups and everything, and the Ghost Piezo didn't work on one string when I pulled it out of the box, nor did the synth access. After the first return, the synth was making sputtering noise. After second return, fully fixed. How does a piezo enabled relatively custom instrument get out the door with one string not even working? Answer, someone messed up (twice in this case). And they should (and did) fix it. Then I posted the complete story. I had another, very expensive custom shop electric, that I spec'd out completely and paid extra for a natural mahogany back. After 5 months it arrived with a blue back. I gasped and was downtrodden when my wife said that she thought it looked better with the blue back. Company offered to refund the extra payment or rebuild. I kept it and couldn't be happier. I didn't post that one because that specific company almost never makes a mistake. So I agree that since ordering Emeralds for most of us takes a bit of a leap of faith that the info from the OP would be and is helpful. I just personally believe there is a little too much instant responses over social media sometimes.
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It ultimately doesn't matter to me personally because it is not my guitar, but like you, the most expensive guitar I ever ordered wasn't exactly what I was expecting either. So, in roundabout way I have a dog in this fight- albeit emotional and nothing more. Just for the record, I handled that situation like you did. I went to the company before voicing my frustrations here, and actually ended up keeping that guitar because 1) I didn't want to go through the hassle of waiting for it's replacement, and 2) I loved everything about the guitar with the one glaring issue that kinda bugged me. And guess what? The issue was cosmetic and that is the most unlikely thing to get me upset, because it did not affect form and function I kept it. I will say this though- I will never order a guitar from said company again sight unseen and still think I should have received a discount for keeping it. Still, I can't believe that Emerald was shipped. However, I just know Alistair will fix it and totally get that mistakes happen. I still would take my chances on an X7 and just might someday and I'm actually quite impressed with the work done at Emerald. I don't think anybody can compete right now. I mean just look at the wait list and wait times! There is a reason for that.
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Melt (OP) I sent you an email just now, and included my phone number.
It is unfortunate that this happened and right on the holiday break - be patient. When I had a minor set-up issue, Alistair called me the next day and we worked it out acceptably. He takes this stuff VERY seriously. I'll make no further comment here until Alistair or Kevin has a chance to respond and remedy the situation. Have faith..... Confirmed. Superb workmanship on that X20, and no issues. |
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I'd give everyone a Christmas Turkey. Sorry, that just struck me as funny eatswodo.
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For you guys who own veneer top Emeralds, is the fit of the veneer on this instrument typical?
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I skimmed through this thread. I'm pretty sure I saw a FB post from Alistair that he was on break and climbing a mountain. I'll bet they will take care of you after the holiday.
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Those details on the Op’s Guitar wouldn’t have bothered me - I’d have probably never noticed them or the uneven fret marking dots. I suspect there’s more margin for error on mine because the veneer is much darker to begin with so I’d have to look really hard to even see those veneer flaws if they’d been there on mine. The fretwork and the divot in the fretboard would bother me a lot, but some of the little cosmetic details wouldn’t have been on my radar, personally... |
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I know this is a little off-topic, but do you think we could get a full-front shot of the guitar? I'm thinking my next guitar (still a ways away) will be an X20 Woody, and right now I'm thinking I like the royal ebony best, with ziricote a close second.
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I guess it's possible. Most folks here seem pretty honest and vocal about their experiences. I'm a pretty picky individual myself and ordered an Emerald based on opinions from this forum. I went over mine with a fine toothed comb when I first received it and am happy to report it's completely flawless. Emerald, Alistair in particular, seems to have always been known for pride in craftsmanship which is why I'll bet my savings account that the OP's story will have a happy ending.
I'm willing to guess because of the increased popularity of the brand, their production is through the roof, and he's got guys there now who do certain tasks. I know he has a veneer guy, a guy who does clear coating, etc and in reality these individuals are probably not as skilled as the man himself (with no disrespect to those individuals of course). After all, how many people in the world can build this: [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by Kerbie; 07-11-2019 at 07:45 PM. Reason: Deleted quote |
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Yes, that's the guitar.
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