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So just for clarification, is there any tuners that drop in or would there need to be alterations to make it work?
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an old J-35. My basket-case J-35 had unusably worn out original tuners on it, and I swapped them with stewmacs so I could use the guitar. After a while, the J-35 got some work done to it at the luthiers and he put a set of waverly open backs on it. So... if you take your strap tuners off and they've left any marks or suntan lines, you'll see that. And you'll have to drill new holes and plug (some of?) the old ones... -Mike |
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So, for the slothead folks, the swap is pretty easy (albeit fairly expensive, as they sell for $285). I just happened to have a 15% off coupon as a StewMac member, so they cost me around $250. For the paddle head, looks like you have to drill and plug whether you go with 3 on a plate or individual open backs. Not a difficult swap, but may leave some tell tale signs after the fact. Here's my original post on the how to if interested: https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=644543
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This week I bought a nice Iris AB natural built in March 2022. Fingerboard and bridge are built from Indian Rosewood.
I have played the AB, DF and DF Smeck - the AB was my clear favourite. I was suprised how light the AB is - 3.49 lb.
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I was not able to replace the GA tuners on my Iris OG slot head with the waverly plates without help from my luthier to redrill the post holes and tweak them to work. The waverly tuners would bind up in the existing holes. There are some minor differences beyond the screws which are different. It may come down to waverly's are made by stew mac in USA and the SM GA tuners are made in china, metric vs american?? I was surprised, but mine were not a drop in fit.
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I am so glad both my Iris guitars, #2 and #73, came with Grover open gear tuners. I agree, I think they need to change as there’s been several complaints.
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It's interesting that the conversation about about the use of wood/ Katalin in these guitars immediately turned into a criticism of the tuners. I own two Warerloos that came with Stew Mac tuners, and two Larrivees and a Martin 0-18 that I converted to them. With the exception of one B tuner, I have never had a problem, and they are cheaper and so much better looking with their vintage styling.
I have never cared much for chrome buttons on vintage-inspired guitars, but have never complained incessantly about them to anyone and everyone who would listen. I simply change them to some I prefer. |
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I've had two guitars where folks have consistently complained about the tuners, including one Iris. I must be a tuner philistine as I twist 'em and they get in tune. That being said, a really nice set of tuners do stand out as buttery smooth and accurate.
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As yall's know I'm not a regular around here, just a reader mostly. Anyone have any thoughts on the CH all mahogany. Kinda thinking about getting one.
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Just to be clear, vintage Waverlys have no relation to modern Waverlys made by Stew Mac, other than the name. |
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Grovers are great tuners at half the price of waverly. These golden age tuners are on the authentic D-1 and 00-17. I didn’t think they were as awful as done here, but no reason not to swap ‘em out if preferred.
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Perhaps the change from Katalox to IRW has something to do with supply. IRW is readily available. Katalox is uncommon and you can never be sure of finding what you want at any one moment.
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Not sure why all the teeth-gnashing re: GA tuners. The ones on my Waterloo turn when I need them to and are rock solid in terms of holding tune. I think many tuning problems are more attributable to poorly-cut nuts, etc. than the tuning machines themselves.
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