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If you want a nice, flexible interface that you can buy once and that will grow with you, I'd move your budget up substantially and look at something like an RME Fireface, a UAD Apollo, or on the lower end, an Apogee Quartet (only 4 channels, tho) - just examples, there are lots of these. Add some nice mics, like some mid-tier Audio Technicas, or even Neuman KM184s or equivalent, and now you're closer to gear that you can buy once and be done for life. But this is way beyond your planned budget. Quote:
By the way, the 2 big pieces you're missing, as far as I can tell, are monitors, and room treatment. These affect what you hear and what gets recorded, so they're far more important than almost any thing else you're thinking about. Good monitors, especially, can be costly.
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The only thing I might add is just how "free" is it? Most EULA's do not allow for employees to take copies home, even if it is work related, unless the actual license holder buys additional licenses. I posed this to gearslutz awhile back: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-software.html Last edited by KenW; 05-07-2013 at 06:28 PM. |
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As far as the room goes - it's relatively small, and there are plenty of soft surfaces all around (curtains, carpet, couches) So as far as reflections go I might get lucky. But there is this one Window that is particularly noisy during the day and would limit my recording to nighttime. I don't care for it though, so I was thinking that if it became a problem I could just cover it with foam. Would that work? Quote:
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Regardless of what gear you get, I would suggest you find and allocate about 100+ hours to experiment, study, research, listening, etc. Recording skills are acquired only through such efforts. |
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I think you're reversing your earlier logic about how having a good instrument helps you learn :-) If everyone here waited until we were making money off music to get recording gear, you wouldn't hear many recordings! I'd dare say almost no one makes money off home recording. In fact, it's arguably cheaper, at any given quality point, especially if you factor in time for learning, to just go to a studio. I suspect most people do it because they enjoy it, so they invest in it, both time and money, the same as other aspects of playing the guitar.
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Truth be told I have been looking forward to seeing what I can do with a DAW. I'm sure there's lots of stuff I don't know about yet I'll be able to get creative with. Is there a portable interface to connect multiple mics to an iPad? I know you can do the whole "iPad->Camera Kit->Powered USB Hub->Sound Card" thing, but that doesn't really count as something portable. |
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Lots of 'em. I use an Alesis ioDock. Fantastic gadget - no camera kit necessary but obsolete post iPad2. When I buy a new iPad, I'll look at Focusrite iTrack - no camera kit necessary. But there are cheaper options from Apogee, Behringer and other companies. It's a real revolution. If someone had told me five years ago I'd be doing all my recording on a tablet from Apple, I would have said, "Huh?" When you compare the prices for iPad DAW's to computer-based DAW's, it quickly becomes a no-brainer. Of course, the critical component is the interface. You'd want something that connects directly to it - not USB. And ideally, you'd want it to charge the battery too.
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Just checked those out, and found a few more. I can't use an iPad for serious mixing (I'm just way more comfortable on my desktop) but it'll definitely come in handy at some point. The thing is that I'm getting Sonar for free, so an iPad DAW is actually more expensive . |
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I started back into recording with the Zoom H2n I got at Xmas. Absolutely love it. Super simple and sounds great. Click my soundcloud link below my signature to hear some solo acoustic guitar recordings I have done with it.
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So...given the window in the room...don't rule out picking up an SM57 or 58 for a cardiod pattern in the room. That can help when you can't eliminate outside noises from creeping in.
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I already placed an order for the gear though. I got an H4n and two Samson C02 mics, plus two stands and cables. I can't wait for them to get here so I can start messing around |
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You''ll want to experiment with positions, the sound can vary throughout a room. But my intuition in this case (which could easily be wrong, since I have no idea what your room is like) is the opposite. Depending on how close you are, playing while facing a reflective surface means the sound will be projecting out of the guitar and bouncing back at you. Just because the mics are aimed away from the window doesn't mean you won't pick up reflections. It can bounce from the guitar to the window, to the floor, etc. On the other hand, sitting with your back to the window (which yes, means the mics will be pointed toward it), will produce fewer reflections from your guitar to the window. What's behind you often doesn't matter all that much. And the mics will be aimed at your guitar, with both it and you blocking them from directly "seeing" the window. But experiment, even if the window does cause reflections, who knows, you may like it! And if the window is across the room, I doubt it will matter much at all either way.
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Yeah, Doug's take on reflections just goes to show how what would seem logical may not work. Experimenting is the only way "on the cheap". I have friends that save the "egg carton" sculpted shipping foam and use spray adhesive to pop it onto very heavy cardboard & make sound sound absorbers & diffusers to, what you would strive for, "deaden" the recording zone. Once the recording is devoid of most natural reverb..."adding" the style of reverb & effects is more controllable via software/plugins to achieve the voicing you want. Some like a live floor (hardwood) for percussion recording. Depends on what you prefer & are producing.
Most of all, don't get discouraged & just have a bit of fun with it!
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Thanks for the pointers
I just played around with it a little bit today with it and it seems like reflections may not be much of a problem. There's very little, and I think just hanging up a thick curtain or even a comforter should do the trick. However, I'm having a little problem with noise (a hiss, not ambient noise). I'm not sure if it's at the input or output stage yet, as I haven't listened to the files on the PC yet. On one hand it could be the output because it's present even with the Mic gain at 0, but on the other hand there's different levels of noise depending on which Mics are being used. Is this normal for the unit? It's really late here now, so I'll look into it more and post a recording tomorrow. And thanks for all the help so far guys, I really appreciate it! |