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10-29-2019, 06:33 PM
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Thumb wrapping rant
I haven't played in standard really much since last year and I was going over a tune or two and one of them had me thumb wrapping, and pinky hammering on the 1st string, 3rd fret and pulling off to a clean open 1st while holding the thumb wrap on the 1st fret, 6th string.
Well, guess what, it wasn't clean at all. My hand will stretch and relearn how to flatten out and shift, but it'll take a while. Hopefully soon,  The only cure is endless repetition 
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10-29-2019, 11:53 PM
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But the repetition is peaceful and meditative and practice is fun....or at least it is for me.
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10-31-2019, 10:32 AM
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That's true to a point. Endless repetition without being analytical about WHY and HOW you're making any mistake in your playing will, more often than not, only reinforce the bad habit. Then muscle memory kicks in - in a bad way.
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11-01-2019, 03:20 PM
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Yes. Muscle memory is indiscriminate, just like a tape* recorder. Garbage in, garbage out.
*a recording medium from the last century
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11-02-2019, 09:37 AM
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Are we really learning to play or just memorizing some movements? I spent many years as an automotive mechanic/technician. There were the natural troubleshooters, and then those who only learned by repetition. Meaning they could do a job well if they had performed it many times. But they would be clueless on any new task...
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11-02-2019, 10:05 AM
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You have to memorize the movements, in order to free yourself to think about learning to play. If you're having to think about where to put your fingers all the time, your aural imagination is hindered. Of course, you're right about the distinction between "technicians" and "creatives". But it's maybe a spectrum rather than an "either/or" thing. Some people just love the technical side, virtuosity for its own sake. Others can be beautifully creative with very basic technical skill. But the creative ones are not going to be hindered by developing their technical skill. It will simply enable them to expand their creativity.
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11-02-2019, 10:24 AM
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Mainly a classical guitar player in earlier years I never cared for the thumb wrapping thing.
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