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So is the EQ app. Image walking around the area you will be playing into and tweaking the sound from the audience position with your smartphone. That’s very cool right there. |
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LR Baggs Synapse Review
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A question in the case of the Synapse is the position of the handle and pole mount. It seems to indicate that the horns weight a lot. The Synapse weight more than twice than the JBL eon one compact.
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It HAS TO run on battery power? Are you saying that the Eon One Compact does not provide a direct power option, or that its having the battery option somehow compromises it's performance? I would be amazed if it can't be plugged into an outlet.
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Of course the JBL EON One Compact can be plugged in.
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iPa53, sorry for the misunderstanding. I am French and sometimes my English is not accurate. I meant that JBL eon one compact has - to be able - to run on battery so it can't be "that" powerful.
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Cuki, As good as I think the Synpase is, most players would have to be crazy, like I am, to spend $1800 to $2000 (depending on the source) for this full-featured PA speaker when, in the real world, a less costly, quality speaker will work just as well for most audiences. Right now, anyone who doesn't mind having a 44 lb speaker would be crazy to pass up on the Bose F1 Model 812 for $899. Just add a decent small mixer to it and you've got all the sound you'll need for a solo or duo act.
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If this speaker works as well as its features suggest it may be able to do, and if the battery doesn't overheat and burn up, it will be the new ultra-small PA speaker standard.
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Yes, but don’t underestimate the ability of JBL to screw up the preamps on otherwise excellent equipment. :-). I should know I have one.
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Right You Are, Dave! Regardless, the JBL EON ONE Compact will be the latest AGF craze and almost every player will be ordering this latest bauble this holiday season. The problem is that AGFers, including myself, will order one before the problems, if any, are brought fully to the forefront! LOL!
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If the EON One Compact is similar to the EON 600 series, it's 50% amp, 50% computer
In my efforts to get my Android tablet to connect to my EON 610, I finally got lucky somehow and the EON Connect app finally 'connected' to it. It told me there was a firmware update available and I accepted it. After a few minutes it completed to successfully to 100% and gave a message to 'Restart'. I power cycled the speaker and subsequently it refuses to connect with the tablet even after multiple 'factory resets'. The BT used to show presence in the Android's OS, but does not now. I think the firmware update may have killed the BT (perhaps a corrupt transfer). With the BT dead the firmware can't be reflashed in an attempt to 'fix' it. JBL should have put a USB connection in these for the for purpose of firmware updates, rather than solely relying on the BT. The EON One Compact looks like a nice sized portable speaker, but I hope it doesn't have the connection problems that EON 600 users are plagued with. |
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I just noticed that JBL finally put manual on their web site:
http://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachm...User_Guide.pdf
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I changed my original post
I am really suspicious about the gain pots... It seems they only provide 26dB gain as illustrated by the app. * The JBL app faders range from -infinty to 26 dB * The JBL regular speaker eon 612 specsheet gives [-Infinity to 26.8 dBu] for line input and [-Infinity to 29 dBu] for mic As a comparison *Bose S1 pro inputs are -XLR: -infinity to + 49 dB -1/4 inch (6.3 mm) Balanced input (Tip-Ring-Sleeve): -infinity + 42 dB -1/4 inch (6.3 mm) Unbalanced input (Tip-Sleeve): -infinity + 36 dB To understand how JBL names things, here is for example a schematic from the "old" lousdpeaker EON 612 user guide They don't use a different symbol for the input "mic/line" gain stage and the "channel levels" or "master volume". In the same user guide, CH1 and CH2 pots are named "gain", and the 3rd pot "Master volume". In the JBL eon one compact user guide, both "Master volume" (general) and "Master gain" are used. It seems that in JBL book "Master volume" goes from -infinity to 0dB while Master gain goes from -infinity to +26dB. It is very different to what we are used to and would mean that there is a physical fixed input gain (similarly to mackie, Bose and previous JBL eon one products). To illustrate that, here are pictures of Gain and volume pots from standard entry-level mixers. The gain pots never go down to -infinity, because they are related to a preamplifer stage that pre-amplify and not attenuate. The level stages work as "volume pots" since they actually attenuate the pre-amplified signal. Right now all the signs seem to show that JBL eon one compact will have the same weak inputs as the EON one and EON one PRO. For me, if the JBL eon one compact does not have proper gain stages, it is no better than the Mackie Freeplay 1st gen.
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I seldom disagree with you. But, we must remember that the Mackie free play had no way to activate the +29 dB setting when you were using a 1/4” jack. That was the major issue with that product. With the Eon One Pro, and this product, you can activate the gain by pressing in the mic switch. For MOST people, the 29 dB will be enough pre-amplification gain for passive pickups and mics, and likely will not clip. My problem with the JBL design is the Line setting is too weak for passive pickups, so I have to use the mic setting for everything and adjust with the level control. I use standard Senn E mics and K&K pickups. This configuration seems to work for me. EDIT: I just noticed that the High Z input is dedicated. It possible that they handicapped this channel to prevent the mic gain setting from activating. If so, Cuki is right that this unit would be no better than the Free Play. Let's hope not.
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