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K&K mini sensor placement
I willbe installing a K&K pure mini and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with differen sensor placements on the bridge plate. I know the instructions say to put the treble sensor inder the e string and the other two, between the other two pairs of strings. However, I'm worried this would lead to a weak b string.
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K&K mini sensor placement
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I had a placement issue that I couldn’t fix (put the treble sensor too close to the middle one). I asked K&K about this and their response was that it wouldn’t matter much as the signal out is a combination of all three and that all three are picking up the vibrations from the bridge plate. I can confirm that the sound from my Furch OM with the Pure Mini is excellent and none of the strings is over- or under-represented in the signal. In other words don’t over think it but just follow the instructions.
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Thanks. I'm installing it on a new top and I will have good control over exactly where they end up, so I wanted to make sure I can pick a good spot.
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I haven't put in K&Ks, but several of the JJB equivalent. I used their standard placement recommendation and all came out very balanced. The preamp or soundboard you run it through will have a greater impact on balance than moving the disc 1/4".
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All on mine where installed according to the instructions. With no expertise I don't see any reason you would over ride the design engineers knowledge and experience.
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Dieter from K&K has years of experience with the Pure Mini and his suggestion to slightly shift the sensor located between the B and E strings is the result of practical experience.
I personally don't think it makes all that much difference, but I defer to his advice for installation. I have done maybe a dozen K&K Pure Mini installations and have been pleased with the results in every case. I recently picked up a JJB 3 sensor pickup to try out that's going in a new Ronroco build and I would expect the results to be similar, although the transducer faces are noticeably cupped. Since they will be bedded in epoxy gel it most likely won't matter. |
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Not looking to be unique. Just wondering if there's a critical difference in sound depending on where the sensors are. |
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In a LOT of cases, in my experience, three sensors are not enough to get the high E string loud enough with respect to the other 5 being properly balanced. If I was putting a K&K system in, I would buy the 4-sensor model, put 3 of them exactly centered under E-B G-D ad A-E, and use the 4th as en extra on the high E side. If you have a guitar with no bridge plate or a very flexible plate, then you probably won't need to do this.
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I have KK minis on breedlove, OM21, Maton, and Eastman, all IAW instructions, and they all sound great and well balanced. I typically use a tonedexter, but they sound good even without.
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I’d say put them where they say, then when you realize you want it a little better, install the Ultratonic upgrade kit, and discover it’s suddenly a LOT better -
Or save yourself the hassle, and install the Ultratonic from the beginning -
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I didn't do it, I can't say whether it was a good idea or not...
here's my new-to-me guitar... -Mike |
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Pretty certain the manufacturer knows best where to put it since their engineers did the R&D, design and testing of it. Why do you not trust them?
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If it sounds good and it's balanced then it Rocks!
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yikes..... |