LR Baggs Voiceprint (Soundscape) DI FIRST LOOK!

[AeroUSA]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

So why don't you guys just put a mic in front of your guitar and feed your in-ears with it while the audience gets the UST piezo sound.

You get a mic tone that would improve your performance and there will be no feedback problem

Feedback and not enough definition.

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by AeroUSA

Feedback and not enough definition.

If the mic signal does not go to the speaker you will not get feedback.

[MaurysMusic]

Originally Posted by AeroUSA

Feedback and not enough definition.

Friends don't let friends give the audience UST piezo sound.

[AeroUSA]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

If the mic signal does not go to the speaker you will not get feedback.

Yes but I want to hear the good tone. You can’t talk Cuki, you have the Trance!

[Petty1818]

Aaron, can I make a request for your next demo of the voiceprint? Could you do a flat eq demo? I would love to hear how the IR sounds without eq applied to either the pickup or the IR.

[AeroUSA]

Originally Posted by Petty1818

Aaron, can I make a request for your next demo of the voiceprint? Could you do a flat eq demo? I would love to hear how the IR sounds without eq applied to either the pickup or the IR.

I can tell you now. It sounds like a mic in front of a soundhole. Totally unusable for most applications. You have to shape it with the EQ. I will show it in the next demo though.

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by AeroUSA

Yes but I want to hear the good tone. You can’t talk Cuki, you have the Trance!

I don’t understand.

My point is the following:

1) We focus on amplified acoustic tone mainly because of « our » perception and how it influences how we perform. The audience does not really care as much as we do.

2) we know the best tone is achieved with a microphone, but microphone will lead to feedback if the signal is sent to the front of the house.

3) If one uses in-ears and let’s say an EAR stompmix4 he/she can have two totally different mixes going to the FOH speakers and to the in-ears.

In this case, the front of the house gets mostly UST or EQed SBT piezo sound in order to « cut » while the performer can get a lot of mic sound blended in his/her in-ear mic.

You can either use a mic in front of the 12th frets, a DPA 4099 or an isolo...

[AeroUSA]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

I don’t understand.

My point is the following:

1) We focus on amplified acoustic tone mainly because of « our » perception and how it influences how we perform. The audience does not really care as much as we do.

2) we know the best tone is achieved with a microphone, but microphone will lead to feedback if the signal is sent to the front of the house.

3) If one uses in-ears and let’s say an EAR stompmix4 he/she can have two totally different mixes going to the FOH speakers and to the in-ears.

In this case, the front of the house gets mostly UST or EQed SBT piezo sound in order to « cut » while the performer can get a lot of mic sound blended in his/her in-ear mic.

You can either use a mic in front of the 12th frets, a DPA 4099 or an isolo...

Sorry I was referring to our conversations about the trance being my ‘ideal’ live tone.

Actually I don’t think a mic is my ideal live tone. I think for me it would be something like the Trance/Cole Clark/K&K (faceplate type pickup) with some IR and maybe the same for the audience but more IR for them. I always wondered why John Mayer doesn’t have IR/mic for his audience and the pickup only on stage.

[Petty1818]

I don’t necessarily want a microphone in front of my guitar tone. Honestly, I don’t even necessarily want the most natural/authentic tone. What I want is a larger than life tone I guess. Something where when I play single note lines, they have some body, not a thin characteristic. With that said, I am starting to realize that potentially this is just not a reality. Most pickups tend to go for a brighter, more present attack. Even if you can get a big tone, most sound techs will eq to cut through the mix resulting in a list of bottom end and fullness.

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by Petty1818

I don’t necessarily want a microphone in front of my guitar tone. Honestly, I don’t even necessarily want the most natural/authentic tone. What I want is a larger than life tone I guess. Something where when I play single note lines, they have some body, not a thin characteristic. With that said, I am starting to realize that potentially this is just not a reality. Most pickups tend to go for a brighter, more present attack. Even if you can get a big tone, most sound techs will eq to cut through the mix resulting in a list of bottom end and fullness.

Then why don't you try Baggs M80. In my memory, it does not sound thin.

[AeroUSA]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

Then why don't you try Baggs M80. In my memory, it does not sound thin.

Sounds magnetic and some people don’t like it visually. It’s good for a really loud stage.

[phcorrigan]

Originally Posted by MaurysMusic

Friends don't let friends give the audience UST piezo sound.

Agreed!!!!

[SpruceTop]

I want an amplified natural acoustic guitar tone, my guitar only louder, but I also like the whole shebang from pickup to mixer to speakers to enable me to sound bigger and more in-your face than natural if desired.

[AeroUSA]

Originally Posted by SpruceTop

I want an amplified natural acoustic guitar tone, my guitar only louder, but I also like the whole shebang from pickup to mixer to speakers to enable me to sound bigger and more in-your face than natural if desired.

Did you ever try the trance? I’d love to try that with the VPDI.

[Petty1818]

I am considering giving the Trance another try and playing with the preamp balance between the transducers. I think I ran out of red tape though. I hated that stuff. Was sometimes so hard to separate it! One odd issue I had with mine though was that the end pin jack would never hold my cables securely. Not sure why that was.