OM-28 vs 000-28 - opinion needed on particular style of play.

[Mycroft]

Originally Posted by v32 finish

I trust you guys much more than anything else out there.

Yeah, like you trust the guys at Delta House with your brothers classic car.

Don't be that guy...

Go play a bunch of them. Really. Look for the one that sidles up to you, slips into your arms, and says "Hey there... Take me home with you." And your answer is "**** right!"

After all, what do a bunch of yabos on the internet know about how you like a guitar to play? To feel?

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by v32 finish

Man.

Thank you Jaden, zmf, Wade, and everyone else. It never fails to amaze me, the great benefit I get from the collective wisdom here.

Of course, the individual instrument being paramount.. this is something I have always known, but needed to be reminded. I wanted to get a brief overview of what you guys thought, and indeed, that's what I got. And yet, it comes full circle -- I am still right where I started. (not really)

I really appreciate the info . My gut tells me that these can both be fantastic guitars - i've never subscribed to the kind of logic of "X guitar is for fingerpicking, and Y guitar is for flatpicking, and Z guitar is for blah-blah-blah." I would hear say stuff like that and just shake my head. And to think, I've been fingerpickin' dreads only for years!!

Thanks again to all who have contributed. Oh, and also- The SCGC OM is basically the ONLY other guitar which is in the running. while it can be done, on the used market... I find it's a bit difficult to find a SCGC in great shape for 3k. Irregardless, the Santa Cruz OM and the Goodall TROM are kind of the 'pinnacle' type "someday" guitar for me.

Someday.

thanks again and everyone have a great weekend! as per the usual, we shall yet see how everything unfolds..

Your welcome, and enjoy the weekend.
We all have different personalities but I think it’s safe to say we all love to talk and dream about guitars. It’s a passion and honestly so.

[v32 finish]

Originally Posted by Mycroft

Yeah, like you trust the guys at Delta House with your brothers classic car.

Don't be that guy...

Go play a bunch of them. Really. Look for the one that sidles up to you, slips into your arms, and says "Hey there... Take me home with you." And your answer is "**** right!"

After all, what do a bunch of yabos on the internet know about how you like a guitar to play? To feel?

This scenario described is a given. But I'm not going out to ye olde shoppes tonight. I *am* sitting around my house playing & reading about guitar, and tooling about on the interwebs, though. One of them will slide into my arms eventually. And of course, whatever you yabo's (yahoos?) on the internet say... isn't going to influence my decision 1 iota.

However. I still enjoy hearing from people who have more experience than I do and (some of) whose opinions i value. At the end of the day, I was just curious about how people felt about those 2 guitars in general. I don't see any reason to get uptight (or be put down) for it . That comment you quoted was a bit facetious on my part, anyway. But I also sort of meant it, too! Alot of people here really make me think sometimes, or consider angles I hadn't thought of before .. so, while at the end of the day, I'll definitely be the one who makes the decisions, I like seeing what others have to say!

Anyway, no harm no foul. No worries. Have a great night and weekend everyone!!

[Wade Hampton]

V32 - the way I read Mycroft’s post was not as a put down of you. He was referring to the frat brothers messing up a vintage car, not telling you how to shop for guitars.

As for us discussing all sorts of stuff relating to guitars, that’s what we do on this forum! So don’t worry about it, and please feel free to use this resource in any way that you find helpful.


Wade Hampton Miller

[IndyHD28]

Originally Posted by Jaden

I failed to mention a critical difference between these two models is the top bracing, 1/4” scalloped for the OM and 5/16” scalloped for the 000.

This is true on the Martin Standards but, 000s can be found with 1/4” scalloped bracing. Both models in the new Modern Deluxe series have this feature as do many dealer customs. Once the bracing is equalized then it’s down to scale length. To me, one of the points of downsizing from dread is to get short scale fretboards so, no OM for me.

[ScottDownSouth]

Originally Posted by Wade Hampton

the scale length is much less important than the characteristics of the individual guitar you end up finding.

Exactly. I’ve got an OM-21 and a 000-28. And play with fingers. The differences between the guitars is there, the OM is louder, and has more punch on the bass strings. The shorter scale 000 has a little more detailed sound but can get a little mushy on the bass strings. But that could be just the difference between 2 random OM,s too.
The major difference between my guitars that I instantly notice is the the difference in nut width, my 000-28 is a pre “reimagined” one so it’s got a 1-11/16” nut.

Go and play both until you find one you like. Between those two guitars you really can’t go wrong no matter what you pick.

Cheers, Scott.

[Kh1967]

Both guitars are excellent and I have played exceptional examples of both.

I think it will be a matter of preference for you, as the player. In my hands, I prefer the punch and volume of the OM, along with what I perceive is more clarity in the bass notes coming from the OM.

As with all things guitars, there are exceptions to every rule. So, if given the opportunity, I would play a few examples of each and see which one speaks to you.

[silvereagle48]

Originally Posted by musicman1951

While not that exact model, my 000 42 is short scale and I wouldn't have it any other way. I also play mostly fingers, more soft than loud but like available dynamics and occasionally dig in with a pick. The 000 excels at all of that.

OM is a fine guitar, but the added string tension does nothing helpful for me. If you played most of the time with a pick loudly I'd go OM. For you I think 000 is the better choice. Any spruce over rosewood.

I agree wholeheartedly with this

[v32 finish]

Originally Posted by Wade Hampton

V32 - the way I read Mycroft’s post was not as a put down of you. He was referring to the frat brothers messing up a vintage car, not telling you how to shop for guitars.

As for us discussing all sorts of stuff relating to guitars, that’s what we do on this forum! So don’t worry about it, and please feel free to use this resource in any way that you find helpful.


Wade Hampton Miller

Thanks Wade. I can see both being true, although I probably overreacted a touch. With that in mind, I removed the second post-script that I 'added' on the bottom of my post, in the spirit of following my own advice (if you can't say something nice, etc). At the same time, I have noticed a trend that sometimes people do do that. someone comes asking for an opinion on a guitar's sound, or 1 guitar vs. another guitar... several people offer great, valuable guidance based on their perceptions, but there's always a couple that come in and don't say a single thing about the guitar or the OP, other than to say something like "what does it matter what a bunch of random people on the internet say? go play them yourself! only you know your own ear! "

While a comment like that is technically true.. it's just a bit irritating to see so frequently, oft-times from the same group of folks, and I don't find it to be in the spirit of the forum's rules to be nice. but of course everyone is entitled to their opinion!

so that's more than enough about that. i apologize for overreacting and didn't mean at all to detour into being inflammatory. just felt a bit ridiculed for stating that I really value the help that I get here! it's all in good fun and good natured i suppose. : )

thanks again to everyone who's contributed, you've given me a lot to go on and i will definitely enjoy the search for the OM (or 000 ) that really rings my bell .

cheers
Scott

[Wade Hampton]

That works for me, Scott. I find that it helps when you head into a guitar search armed with specialist knowledge like what can be provided here, but it can sometimes be paralyzing if that background information is given too much weight.

In any event, I look forward to learning which guitar you end up with.


whm