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I have a setup for recording into my computer etc. etc. But I don't like to deal with it when recording just my vocal and guitar by myself. I don't like the way my mind set changes from performance to dealing with the computer and the mouse and that whole click, click, click thing. I have to take off my finger picks and work over my guitar etc. Then flip around and try another take. My performance suffers. I'm looking for someway of recording my vocals and guitar as easily as I can. I'd then transfer it into my computer setup. Do you have any opinions or suggestions?
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I have a setup for recording into my computer etc. etc. But I don't like to deal with it when recording just my vocal and guitar by myself. I don't like the way my mind set changes from performance to dealing with the computer and the mouse and that whole click, click, click thing. I have to take off my finger picks and work over my guitar etc. Then flip around and try another take. My performance suffers. I'm looking for someway of recording my vocals and guitar as easily as I can. I'd then transfer it into my computer setup. Do you have any opinions or suggestions?
Any of the little portable recorders will do the job. Look at the Zoom H4n or H5 for starters, but there are others. Can't get any easier than these - adjust the volume and hit the record button.
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Any of the little portable recorders will do the job. Look at the Zoom H4n or H5 for starters, but there are others. Can't get any easier than these - adjust the volume and hit the record button.
Can you use your own mics? Or must you use theirs? Individual volume or one volume only?
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It depends on the device, but the two I mentioned have built-in mics, which are fine, but you can do better with external mics.

Here's a demo I did for Acoustic Guitar recently that shows the process I think you're describing. I only show solo guitar, but its the same idea if you have a vocal mic or whatever. I used the H6, which has support for the built-in mics + 4 more. The H4 and H5 support the builtins + 2 more.

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Thanks Doug. That sounds pretty good to my ear.
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You could get one of these too:

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DP-006...J41C989XRBAHT0



It has two condenser mics built in for quick ideas and then you can also plug in external mics. And, it can do up to 6 tracks for slightly more complicated songs. It's also only $109.

I would pick one of these up because it looks cool, but I already have a Tascam DR-05 for capturing ideas (which I love and maybe one of the most important music purchases ever) and a Zoom R16 to use as a portable option for capturing more than one track.
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I'd recommend a Zoom R8 if you only need a mono vocal and single condenser on your guitar. The DP006 above is limited to 16 bit audio. You'll have much better results recording 24 bit 44.1khz if you're going to port your tracks to a computer DAW to edit and mix.

R24 if you want to do stereo guitar and mono vocal at the same time.
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I use a Zoom H5 with two external mics (AT 2035). You can get fairly decent recordings without external mics. When I'm recording with the zoom without external mics I'll prop it up on a towel instead of using the small desktop tripod that I have. The towel seems to cut down on some reflections.
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I'd recommend a Zoom R8 if you only need a mono vocal and single condenser on your guitar. The DP006 above is limited to 16 bit audio. You'll have much better results recording 24 bit 44.1khz if you're going to port your tracks to a computer DAW to edit and mix.

R24 if you want to do stereo guitar and mono vocal at the same time.
Why would you need to jump to a R24 when you can get an R16? Input-wise, they are basically the same except for you can bounce more tracks and mix 24 tracks on the R24 as opposed to 16 tracks on the R16.
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Why would you need to jump to a R24 when you can get an R16? Input-wise, they are basically the same except for you can bounce more tracks and mix 24 tracks on the R24 as opposed to 16 tracks on the R16.
R16s are no longer being made, you can find used ones on reverb.com
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Why would you need to jump to a R24 when you can get an R16? Input-wise, they are basically the same except for you can bounce more tracks and mix 24 tracks on the R24 as opposed to 16 tracks on the R16.
There are more important differances if you're using the R series for audio capture.

If you're doing anything serious with the Zoom R series you need to use condenser mics. Using dynamics with the Zoom's built in pres is a recipe for noise as you need to use too much gain to get a solid input signal.

The R-24 has additional phantom power inputs, so that makes things really simple to use condensers. The R-24 also has a better display so it's easier to use.
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I recorded a CD using a Tascam DP24, mixed and edited in Reaper on my iMac, sent out for final mastering and repro.
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I recorded a CD using a Tascam DP24, mixed and edited in Reaper on my iMac, sent out for final mastering and repro.
That looks pretty cool too. I haven't look at multitracks in a while, but I looked that up and it looks sweet.
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