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Old 10-05-2021, 11:08 PM
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Oh, be sure to check out Fran Guidry's Homebrewed Music site as well, for all kinds of recording demos and tips, including room treatment. Here's his blog section on room treatment:

http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/tag/acoustic-treatment/
I have some of his videos on the list already, including his two panel minimalist video. I'm purposely staying away from the measurement stuff because it's going to be over the heads of most beginners and I don't want to scare them off of the idea of room treatment. I'm going to lead with the room treatment section because it's the hardest thing to sell to those new to this. I'm putting it right at the top of the list but I'm going to stick mostly to the basics of a good setup.

I'm envisioning the video list as a jumping in point for those new to recording ...just a collection of informative videos to help someone understand the basics. Once someone gets past the basic stage, they're probably better off discussing things in the forum because solutions can go in many directions at that point.

I've been going back and forth over some room treatment videos I've found from GIK because they're selling a product. The information is sound and, I think, very well presented. so I'm leaning towards including a statement to indicate I'm not pushing anyone towards the company rather than omit the videos ...unless I find some better alternatives.

I estimate I've spent at least 20 hours this week watching videos. My eyes are starting to spin but I think I've found some diamonds among the jetsam.
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I have some of his videos on the list already, including his two panel minimalist video. I'm purposely staying away from the measurement stuff because it's going to be over the heads of most beginners and I don't want to scare them off of the idea of room treatment.
Makes sense. I'd think the ones I'm remembering as being just simple before-after were perhaps the most accessible.

I don't have a video, but I've always thought my before-after comparison of my recording space should be somewhat convincing:

My bare room before treatment, one TLM103 18 inches away:
http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/mp3/1..._bare_room.mp3

After most treatment, one TLM103 18 inches away:
http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/mp3/F...3_18inches.mp3

After a few final panels were added, and more realistic micing, KM184s in ORTF 8 inches from the guitar:
http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/mp3/8..._realtraps.mp3

All from the same spot in the room.
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Old 10-05-2021, 11:57 PM
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Makes sense. I'd think the ones I'm remembering as being just simple before-after were perhaps the most accessible.

I don't have a video, but I've always thought my before-after comparison of my recording space should be somewhat convincing:

My bare room before treatment, one TLM103 18 inches away:
http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/mp3/1..._bare_room.mp3

After most treatment, one TLM103 18 inches away:
http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/mp3/F...3_18inches.mp3

After a few final panels were added, and more realistic micing, KM184s in ORTF 8 inches from the guitar:
http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/mp3/8..._realtraps.mp3

All from the same spot in the room.
Fran's video does a very good job of demonstrating what just a couple of panels can do.

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Old 10-06-2021, 03:27 AM
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Default Ethan Winer's 'Room Treatment' Bible

Aloha Jim,

I always recommend Ethan Winer's 'Room Treamemt' Bible RE: Treatment info. So I agree with Doug that you should consider it for a 'stickie.' IT is comprehensive & that's putting it mildly.

https://ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html

Thank you for your yeoman's efforts putting this together, Jim.

But Fran's 'Building a Broadband Absorber really takes the cake. IT's a must for DIY Treatment.

http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/2009/...-on-the-cheap/

Mahalo a nui!

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Aloha Jim,

I always recommend Ethan Winer's 'Room Treamemt' Bible RE: Treatment info. So I agree with Doug that you should consider it for a 'stickie.' IT is comprehensive & that's putting it mildly.
I agree that Winer is excellent but I think that's too technical for the intended audience. Bobby Owsinski's video covers a lot of the same ground in a more accessible way.




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But Fran's 'Building a Broadband Absorber really takes the cake. IT's a must for DIY Treatment.

http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/2009/...-on-the-cheap/
That one is on my list.
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Aloha Jim,

I agree. Owsinski's 'treatment' video (which I found to be boring) may be more appropriate for the 'newbie' orientation of the current 'Record' site.

Your comment actually supports what I've been saying for quite awhile here: that there oughta be a separate "Pro Record' site created so the newbies don't predominate conversations among 'pro player/recordists.' We do have many here in that category.

Just a thought to relay.

Mahalo,

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Old 10-07-2021, 10:30 AM
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A new section with recommended tutorial videos has been added to the Masterlist. It can be found at the bottom of post #2 in the stickie thread.

Thank you to the members who helped build the list!
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I finally got back my Demeter a week ago...with new caps and Tubes...and I have No time to even plug it in and test it..ha ha..I will have to wait until I get back from my trip over two weeks from now.
Have you had a chance to use your Demeter yet? I'm curious to know if it makes your ears as happy as it always makes mine.
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Possible reverb youtube video:

https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/9-c...eers-make.html


https://youtu.be/dOWwAdt58VI

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Thanks. I'll give it a watch when I get the time.
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Thanks. I'll give it a watch when I get the time.
Either way fine with me. Just happened to come across it. Actually liked his printed website info better than the video.
If I find any reverb video discussion on the internet that I like and that is more specifically related to guitar I will provide
a link to that.
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