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Old 09-20-2021, 07:45 AM
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...A little heavy on the reverb, but blame the architect. This is plectrum style at its finest.

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...could you really imagine something like the Concierto de Aranjuez (1939) having been written for anything but the Spanish/classical guitar?...
Yes, I can - and but for Segovia, a taste of what might have been...
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Old 09-20-2021, 08:09 AM
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Yes, I can - and but for Segovia, a taste of what might have been...
Yeah, well, hmmm. The guitar sounds great of course, the performance is admirable but I'm too much of a puritan to be able to listen to this for the music.

This music. I have no problems with the use of any kind of instrument in classical music that was written for it (certainly not as long as it's original music, not a rewrite of a famous existing work from a non-American composer of the past). In fact, I tend to see many compositions by the likes of Mike Dowling or David Laibman as (future) classical compositions. To me they're exactly in the same niche as Sor, Tarrega, Mertz and many of the beloved/staple classical guitar composers (I wonder if back in their day they were mostly seen as that, or rather as performers...!).

Use an archtop with composite (or gut + silk!) strings and classical/finger picking RH technique, and my objections disappear - I'm dreaming of such one even. I don't know though (hope not, actually) if such a guitar would ever sound like a piano, which appears to be the graal for many current-day classical guitarists.
FWIW: I have a love/hate relationship with steel strings but could easily imagine them being used in classical repertoire. A flatpick, much less; the only ones I can kind of stand are made out of ebony (and they wear too fast on steel strings).
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Talk is cheap. Here's one built by a friend of mine in Montreal, Guillaume Bettencourt (sp).



And here's where they came from. A little heavy on the reverb, but blame the architect. This is plectrum style at its finest.



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That Recuerdos is MINDBLOWING.
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What's this about Concierto de Aranjuez played on something other than nylon strings?

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That Rancourt archtop is INCREDIBLE!
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Old 09-22-2021, 03:59 AM
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That Recuerdos is MINDBLOWING.
That's pretty funny, Mr.B!!!

Recuerdo(s)......means I remember, and I have no idea how to make it plural, pero me esposa es Colombiana, dig?

Anyway......the word you're looking for is Rasgueados, and yeah.......he's incredible!!

What's even funnier is me ignoring the title of the song altogether and thinking you were referring to his technique..........

My bad......

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That's pretty funny, Mr.B!!!

Recuerdo(s)......means I remember, and I have no idea how to make it plural, pero me esposa es Colombiana, dig?

Anyway......the word you're looking for is Rasgueados, and yeah.......he's incredible!!

What's even funnier is me ignoring the title of the song altogether and thinking you were referring to his technique..........

My bad......

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Lol, no worries!

I actually want to watch that video closer...I've played recuerdos...slowly, with fingers...and I'm not even sure how it's possible with a pick...I guess in theory it is as no two notes are being sounded simultaneously...but...shucks...
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What's this about Concierto de Aranjuez played on something other than nylon strings?
Who said anything about playing it on anything (http://www.stanthea.plus.com/stansmu...aranjuez.mid)?

Re-read my original comment...

FWIW, Rodrigo wrote this composition in 1939, it's not like he couldn't possibly have known good acoustic archtops or their use in/for classical music. But if you're a Spanish classical composer about to write something steeped in traditional Spanish music and for guitar, why would you write the guitar part with another instrument in mind?
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