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Old 09-13-2020, 10:49 AM
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Default How to Play Gb9 chord in Girl From Ipanema

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Looking for some guidance on playing The Girl From Ipanema. Key of F. I'm playing this softly with a flat pick. Song starts with Fmaj G7 Gm7 Gb7 (she passes goes Aaah) Fmaj7 Gb9 (this is where I'd appreciate some input). How do you play/strum the Gb9 ? After Gb9 song continues with Fmaj7 (When she walks ....).

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Old 09-13-2020, 11:22 AM
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https://www.scales-chords.com/chord/guitar/Gb9

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Old 09-13-2020, 11:30 AM
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Standard Bar 9th chord. Bar at 2nd fret.
Code:
 ╒═╤═╤═╤═╤═╕
 │ │ │ │ │ │
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
 1 │ 1 │ 1 │
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
 │ │ │ 2 │ │
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
 │ 3 │ │ │ 4
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
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Old 09-13-2020, 11:31 AM
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Girl From Ipanema is a great song,
I'm not sure if it's correct but this is how I play the Gb9 chord part of the song you question.
( Gb7 (she passes goes Aaah) Fmaj7 Gb9 )
This is the Gb9 chord form I use and I play it with
2 quick up strokes, slight pause, then 1 quick up stroke followed by 1 quick
down stroke

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Old 09-13-2020, 11:50 AM
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Hi folks,

Looking for some guidance on playing The Girl From Ipanema. Key of F. I'm playing this softly with a flat pick. Song starts with Fmaj G7 Gm7 Gb7 (she passes goes Aaah) Fmaj7 Gb9 (this is where I'd appreciate some input). How do you play/strum the Gb9 ? After Gb9 song continues with Fmaj7 (When she walks ....).

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks!
I think there is a case here for dropping the 5th ( Db) and using the easier 4 note version, as far as I understand it the 5th harmonises so well with the 1st scale tone in the cord that most listeners won't be able to tell its not there, so for the sake of an easier rythmn part while singing drop the 5th.
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Old 09-13-2020, 05:57 PM
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The chord in the original is Gb13. In fact the original Getz/Gilberto version is in Db, so the chord is D13, and it's actually played in an unusual voicing, without the 7th, so really it's just a 6/9.

Gilberto's shape (in his key) is 5-x-4-4-5-x; so more like B7sus4/A than a D13!

But for key of F you need to raise that 4 frets (9-x-8-8-9-x); or, if your other shapes are down in 1st position you can play it as x-4-x-3-4-4.

Personally, though, I like a more complete Gb13 (losing the 9th on top): 2-4-2-3-4-x.

Gilberto's shapes for all the other chords are weird partial ones too, but highly effective. You can see Adam Neely taking you through them here (transposed to key of F):

Notice he doesn't include the final Gb13 chord - that's because he's going to talk about some fancier turnaround.
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by stanron View Post
Standard Bar 9th chord. Bar at 2nd fret.
Code:
 ╒═╤═╤═╤═╤═╕
 │ │ │ │ │ │
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
 1 │ 1 │ 1 │
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
 │ │ │ 2 │ │
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
 │ 3 │ │ │ 4
 ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
I like this one as well.
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The Adam Neely video is interesting and entertaining, but I think there's a mistake in this part, starting at around 18:00. By 18:22, he's labelled all the chords,, like so:

Fmaj7=Imaj7
G7=V7/V
Gmin7=IIm7
C7=V7
Fmaj7=Imaj7

The G7 should be II7.
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Old 09-23-2020, 04:27 AM
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Fmaj7=Imaj7
G7=V7/V
Gmin7=IIm7
C7=V7
Fmaj7=Imaj7

The G7 should be II7.
Perhaps the G7=V7/V means that G7 is the Dominant 7 leading to C7 which is the V7 of F, a Secondary Dominant.
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The Adam Neely video is interesting and entertaining, but I think there's a mistake in this part, starting at around 18:00. By 18:22, he's labelled all the chords,, like so:

Fmaj7=Imaj7
G7=V7/V
Gmin7=IIm7
C7=V7
Fmaj7=Imaj7

The G7 should be II7.
Well yes, it's II7, but V7/V is how it's functioning. It's a secondary dominant. Its move to V is delayed (by ii), but V7/V is still a correct analysis.
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Well yes, it's II7, but V7/V is how it's functioning. It's a secondary dominant. Its move to V is delayed (by ii), but V7/V is still a correct analysis.
Thanks stanron and Jon. I understand the explanation, but it doesn't make sense to me to write it that way. Maybe I'm taking it out of context.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:06 AM
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Mickey Baker's Book 1, lesson one... 25 or so lovely jazzy chord voicings that you will use in SO may contexts and other songs... that first page alone is worth the price of the booklet...
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Thanks stanron and Jon. I understand the explanation, but it doesn't make sense to me to write it that way. Maybe I'm taking it out of context.
If you mean the slash symbol, that's how secondary dominants are written. The slash means "of" (dominant of the chord after the slash), it's not indicating a bass note. Sorry if you mean something else!
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I've always played that Gb9 as a GbM9 (243324). I dunno, to me it just fits better.
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