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I want a really good burger, I'll make them myself. Personally, I much prefer fish and chips. |
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I would suggest that it's not as dire in the UK as you claim. It certainly was growing up in the 70's, dull and bland. But over the last 20 to 30 years things have changed a lot, especially in the large metropolitan areas. London is claimed to the home of more nationalities than any other capital city.(37‰ of the population is foreign born) You can find any cuisine from any part of the world in the capital. It's just that many of these establishments aren't frequented by tourists. |
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The theme of the original post was ineptitude of fast food service workers.
That's like complaining about taxes in my opinion. You get what you pay for. J |
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My grandson worked at Dunkin’ Donuts as a part time gig for a while to earn extra money. When there were no customers he went out front and wiped off the tables, swept the floor and found other ways to keep busy while the other teenaged units talked or texted on their cell phones right in front of the manager who did nothing about it. He found that to be the case in a couple of other food service jobs where young people were employed. My daughter and son-in-law deserve credit for teaching him to do his best no matter what. Personally, I can’t accept your premise because I started out in the same fashion and I worked hard for whatever I got paid. That’s how it should be. You work, you get paid.
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Most of the folks who shared this Info traveled all around GB and generally, they said the food was not good and choices were very limited. Part of the “charm” of Western Europe is that things aren’t like they are here in the U.S. That’s great for a visit. Personally, I prefer the magnitude of choices here.
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Hey RokDog, i think my original thoughts on this were lost in this thread drift, from quality of workers to quality of food.
I totally agree, the present work ethic is absent, there is no work ethic. 40 to 50 years ago, there was a work ethic, as you can see in my post #8 People care less these days, and it's just a sign of the times, could write a book about it, and many have. J |
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I think a lot of these issues stem from Management. They need to be on the floor to address the issues when they happen so employees understand the importance of customer service. |
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Work ethics start at Management (ownership) Level.
You can't expect subordinates to have ethics if ownership is lax and uncaring. J |
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There is a minority out there of true “worker bees” in all vocations but it is a minority. Unfortunately, the good ones get more dumped on them and have to shoulder all the inadequacies of the rest. I’ve witnessed it all my life and it’s worse now than ever. The root cause of this is lack of accountability in management. The stuff all rolls downhill because it can. Last Sunday at the drive-thru I ordered a Bacon and Cheese Egg McMuffin and got a Sausage and Egg Biscuit...no cheese. There ya’ have it!
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I think there is a lot of wisdom in this thread (really).
I want to expand on one topic and it sounds silly but I *learned* a lot of work ethic during my years at McDonald's. Seriously. We worked hard and paid attention to doing a good job. That work ethic was instilled in me. four decades later I am still proud that I started my working life there. Some people may see it as a joke of a job now, but when I was seventeen and my friends were painting houses and cutting lawns I was handling the stores cash, inventory, customers and supervising 42 employees. Most importantly I learned work ethic. Where did that experience go
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Yeah, if you want to expand the ' Work Ethic ' to more than just Fast Food, you can apply it to Professional Vocations as well.
I've seen this for over 20 years if not more. Nowadays, everything is being done halfway, no one cares, no one follows up. If you want to make sure your part is done successfully, you have to follow up, you can't trust anyone in the food chain to be reliable. What happened? I think Pat Buchanan Death of the West has a good book for reading. J Last edited by Kerbie; 07-15-2020 at 02:18 PM. Reason: No profanity |
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The younger folks I hire coming out of school are the hardest working group of people i've ever experienced in my professional life. They're better trained than we were, have an amazing work ethic, kind, emotionally intelligent, know how to ask for what they want, and are smart as can be. I'm constantly impressed with that generation, mostly millennials. Data seems to support this.
But we're talking about college educated kids working in fast-paced tech. I worked at McDonalds as one of my first jobs (when I wasn't bucking hay) on what they called the 10:1 grill, which was very busy. I took pride in my manager counting on me to be fast and efficient, she didn't want anyone else on 10:1 when I was in. There was no shortage of lazy clowns in that experience. People tend to romanticize their past. I'm deeply skeptical of such observations about the overall decline in work ethic. I RARELY eat fast food, but in my limited sample when traveling, I just don't see much of a difference. If I did, the first place I would look would be systems and training, rather than making broad assertions about a generation's work ethic. I find the negativity all too typical of an older generation's complaints about "kids these days". It seems largely unsubstantiated and misguided. |
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Interesting question ' Where did the Experience Go '
I'm afraid the experience went to Immigrants and first born American Citizens. The experience and skill is there, it's just that the folks that previously had that experience are no longer pursuing these jobs. A rather touchy subject. J |
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When you go the other way, well... |
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I used to work the 10-2 shift an Wendy's. Which was ok. I probably got that shift because both my manager and I were responsible. As I look back now, that shift sucked. A bit of worker exploitation. |