Thoughts On Natural Ways to Help Fight COVID-19

[noledog]

Originally Posted by jpd

3% peroxide. Use it on everything...masks, ears, etc.

Hi JPD, please explain the proper way to clean mask with peroxide... is it good for the paper-ish style masks too? Thank you.

[flaggerphil]

For washing masks, my doctor, three nieces, and a SIL, who are nurses and in the trenches, all say wash them thoroughly with soap and water.

I'm not going to get into "natural" ways to fight the virus. We're mostly staying at home and when we HAVE to go out, we wear masks, use social distancing almost to the extreme, and use soap and water and hand sanitizer.

And by have to go out I mean going in for cancer treatment. For other doctor appointments we've been using virtual appointments such as telehealth. It's been working pretty well.

[DCCougar]

Originally Posted by noledog

Thoughts On Natural Ways to Help Fight COVID-19

Surefire remedy: Stay Inside. Wipe with disinfectant anything coming in from outside - mail, groceries, new guitars....

Win Hof breathing. A healthy whole food diet, exercise.

[piper_guitarist]

I contracted what I believe was COVID-19 in early March. I was never tested, so I don’t know for a fact, but I do know what I had looked an awful lot like it. I recovered in 3.5 days.

My BFF is a functional medicine doctor and placed me on the following protocol:

-Vitamin C - 20,000mg (yes, twenty thousand) per day.
-Zinc - 65mg per day
-Sambucus elderberry syrup - 120mL per day
-Tincture of astragalus - 5 dropper fulls per day
-Diphenhydramine HCl - 50mg at night for sleep
-“Warming” foods (not temperature wise, but warming as per Ayurvedic and Traditional Chinese Medicine - you want to increase Pitta as opposed to Kapha or Vata)
-Avoid alcohol
-Avoid dairy
-Avoid processed sugar

It was about the least bothersome virus I’ve ever had. I just did the above when I felt unwell and I bounced right back.

[jpd]

Originally Posted by noledog

Hi JPD, please explain the proper way to clean mask with peroxide... is it good for the paper-ish style masks too? Thank you.

Hey there noledog.... I use it with a Q-tip in my ears and nose. A spray bottle to spray a mist on my face mask(paper) b-4 I go out. Read up on the great properties and protection that 3% Hydrogen Peroxide provides.

[noledog]

Originally Posted by jpd

Hey there noledog.... I use it with a Q-tip in my ears and nose. A spray bottle to spray a mist on my face mask(paper) b-4 I go out. Read up on the great properties and protection that 3% Hydrogen Peroxide provides.

Thank you sir, good ideas! I use Q-trips with alcohol or HP in my ears too, tho my ENT doc dislikes Q-tips... I'll get a spray bottle & use your method, thanks!

[noledog]

Possible reduction in lung inflammation for asthma with L-Theanine... wonder if it would help with pneumonia and COVID-19 lung inflammation?

* 2017 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27908701 ...in humans

* 2009 https://www.researchgate.net/publica...n_in_Aged_Mice ...combined with L-Cystine, in mice

* more interesting stuff https://www.lifeextension.com/protoc...gingStrategies and https://examine.com/topics/coronavirus/

Other interesting things I've found to possibly help with immunity and such are; Quercitin, Manuka Honey and Olive Leaf Extract... and more. I know they all need double blind studies and science etc and yes there is a lot of snake oil too. But nature does provide ways of treatment and healing. I just enjoy the research of this kinda stuff, maybe some of ya'll find it interesting too... kinda like how nature provided the beginnings of penicillin via blue-green molds. Ya never know the next cure may come from eating vanilla ice cream from Australian cow milk sprinkled with Manuka honey from New Zealand! ...my name would find it's way on to the list of participants for the double-blind trials!

[DCCougar]

Originally Posted by catdaddy

...Using any pharmacologically active substance, including but not limited to "Natural" products, that have no track record in safely and effectively treating a COVID-19 infection is not prudent....

Well put. Some of the things suggested (Vit C, sleep, exercise, etc., etc.) are simply good things to do in general, but they're not likely to do any good against Covid19, so don't be getting overly optimistic. Hundreds of tests are being run, and something may be found to help, but until then, stay inside as much as possible! Do not congregate! Best of luck!

[nolegsfngrpickn]

Originally Posted by Everton FC

Raw Milk

Please no! The health "benefits" are unsubstantiated and at best, pseudoscientific, and the risk is unbelievably high, especially for kids. I don't want you to get sick.

You know zoonotic diseases like bovine tuberculosis or hear much about it? Probably not because we've all but eradicated it in the US.

It's considered "...one of humanities deadliest foes" in the realm of epidemiology. In 2015 there were 10.4 million new cases and 1.8 million deaths in other, less developed countries. It's spread by consumption of raw milk. Q fever, brucellosis, listeriosis, pathogenic e. coli, etc, etc are all other diseases/pathogens eliminated by pasteurization.

Raw milk is not healthy.

[nolegsfngrpickn]

Originally Posted by piper_guitarist

I contracted what I believe was COVID-19 in early March. I was never tested, so I don’t know for a fact, but I do know what I had looked an awful lot like it. I recovered in 3.5 days.

My BFF is a functional medicine doctor and placed me on the following protocol:

-Vitamin C - 20,000mg (yes, twenty thousand) per day.
-Zinc - 65mg per day
-Sambucus elderberry syrup - 120mL per day
-Tincture of astragalus - 5 dropper fulls per day
-Diphenhydramine HCl - 50mg at night for sleep
-“Warming” foods (not temperature wise, but warming as per Ayurvedic and Traditional Chinese Medicine - you want to increase Pitta as opposed to Kapha or Vata)
-Avoid alcohol
-Avoid dairy
-Avoid processed sugar

It was about the least bothersome virus I’ve ever had. I just did the above when I felt unwell and I bounced right back.

Just being devil's advocate, but literally none of those things could have helped at all. I think it's potentially 50% of people can be asymptomatic and of those that contract true disease 80%+ recover without any major issues based on current data?

I believe I had it as well, and I felt slightly crummy for 2 days and that's it. I changed nothing in my lifestyle.

So from a scientific perspective attributing all those things that your naturopath recommended to your minor bout of sickness is a fruitless endeavor. Plus, there'd be no way of knowing which helped, if any did at all.

The benadryl was probably the only thing that made you feel better, as it truly decreases inflammation systemically.

[BrunoBlack]

Originally Posted by noledog

* Hydroxychloroquine with zinc appears to have some success according to ER physician:

"Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution."

Cardillo is the CEO of Mend Urgent Care, which has locations in Sherman Oaks, Van Nuys and Burbank.

He said he has found it only works if combined with zinc. The drug, he said, opens a channel for the zinc to enter the cell and block virus replication."

** Here's link that has video as well: https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-dru...quine/6079864/

*** Dr Eric Neptune also thinks quinine or at least Tonic Water with zinc may help too... at least these physicians are trying to treat while there is no cure yet.

Continued thoughts on the above? ...thanks for all who have chimed in because whether you agree or not your input is helpful as we try to stay informed together on this.

eric

Careful if you are planning to use this drug. This was just published in USA Today.

Study of Trump-touted chloroquine for coronavirus stopped due to heart problems, deaths.

Link to article here.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ug/2983129001/

[noledog]

Originally Posted by Haasome

Careful if you are planning to use this drug. This was just published in USA Today.

Study of Trump-touted chloroquine for coronavirus stopped due to heart problems, deaths.

Link to article here.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ug/2983129001/

* Understood sir, as has been stated a lot. However there has been far more success with it and has saved lives. A viable option right now unless something better arrives. There is no full-proof treatment with many drugs, they all have potential side effects. No different here, ya just have to see the % to see if it worth the risk. From what I have read, the greater cardio risk has been associated more with using the Zithromax in combination with the HQ. Other physicians are taking out most of the risk by substituting with zinc and/or amoxicillin.

* I just listened to an April 10th radio round table interview of physicians treating their Covid-19 patients with good success here at Baptist Hospital in Jacksonville and several others around the state of Florida. Many of the questions were related to use of Hydroxychloroquine and it's success here in Florida.

* A very interesting discussion about how it works and the several strong studies, as well as, the side effects and at what point to administer it. This is one of the best discussions I've heard from actual physicians on the front lines vs the politicians and a mostly disgraceful media... just click "listen" under the picture and listen from 0:00 to 15:00 to get the gist of it: https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/h...graphics-virus Unfortunately the link no longer carries the article as did in the last week. Anyway one of the physicians on the show was Dr. Pulido, M.D. Pulmonary & Critical Care Specialist. A highly acclaimed doctor who works on the front lines at Baptist hospital and has treated critical patients successfully. The HQ allows the zinc to get in there to help stop the virus. Here is one of many examples he discussed: https://www.news4jax.com/health/2020...id-19-patient/

eric

[nolegsfngrpickn]

Originally Posted by Haasome

Careful if you are planning to use this drug. This was just published in USA Today.

Study of Trump-touted chloroquine for coronavirus stopped due to heart problems, deaths.

Link to article here.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ug/2983129001/

It's a study being done in Brazil, and in the first sentence it says: "...found it to be so dangerous at high doses the trial was shut down after six days."

The drug they were being given was chloroquine, which has a much higher side effect profile than hydroxychloroquine. Also, any of the drugs people are trying right now can mess with cardiac function. Any medication given at high doses will produce side effects, some being deadly. There have been thousands upon thousands of people cured with hydroxychloroquine.

These patients are also sick with COVID-19. No discussion of comorbidities, which can drastically increase the chance of death, regardless of treatment.

Here's a study out of France: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...24857920300996

"Hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."

[David Eastwood]

Originally Posted by nolegsfngrpickn

Raw milk is not healthy.

I'd beg to differ - as long as the source is rigorous about following best practices for hygiene, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with 'raw milk'. We bought it for many years from a local farm. My wife and kids, and none of the dozens of other families who bought from the same source ever suffered any ill-effects.

I never drank it - but I'm lactose-intolerant, so I don't drink any cow's milk.

Now, back to the subject at hand.