Sound Quality Compared- QSC CP8,Bose S1,JBL Compact - Page 2

jonfields45 · #16 08-13-2020, 05:03 AM

We put a bass guitar through the single CP8 we use when we gig (high and behind, and nothing else). It sounds great even at high volumes.

wweiss · #17 08-13-2020, 10:31 AM

Can anyone compare the sound/performance of the CP8 to the K8 Legacy?

varmonter · #18 08-13-2020, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wweiss

Can anyone compare the sound/performance of the CP8 to the K8 Legacy?

I've heard both but never in a side by side.
The cp8 has the switch on the back that gives
It different eq options like when you use it as a monitor or with a sub. The K8 has the sub switch.
I like the monitor setting on the cp8..seems to
Warm it up a bit.
Someone here posted that they were the same
Speaker.. sort of like what coke did with New And
Classic coke.. The cabinets are definitely different and the cp8 gives you more EQ settings
On the back. And the Cp8 is considerably cheaper even compared to what the K8 cost new
10 yrs ago. I can only compare the k 10.2 and
The k10..as I've owned both and like the k10 better. They dont make a cp-10.

??

wweiss · #19 08-13-2020, 12:29 PM

varmonter
Curious why you like the K10 better than the K10.2 ?

DavidE · #20 08-13-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by varmonter

The jbl compact probably has better bass
Than the cp8. It has a sub right?

No, the JBL Eon Compact does not have a sub. It's the 17lb battery powered speaker. It has an 8-inch woofer that extends low-end response to 37.5 Hz.

Petty1818 · #21 08-13-2020, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rockabilly69

This is not true they are different amplifiers, speakers, weight, and cabinet size

There is no fan in the CP8, and i've used the K8 and have had the fan come on when needed!

The HF driver is larger in the K8 1.75" compared to 1.4" in the CP8

The nominal coverage is 105 degrees in the K8 vs 90 degrees in the CP8

Maximum SPL 127db K8 vs 124db CP8

The frequency response is different at -10db the K8 61-20Khz for the K8 vs 53-20K in the CP8

They are different weights 27lbs (K2) vs 21lbs (CP8)

They are different dimensions K8 17.7" X 11" x 10.6" vs
CP8 16.2 × 10.7 × 10.1 in

They may sound similar to the originals, but they are a totally different speaker.

Sorry, should have clarified. I wasn’t trying to say that the k8 and cp8 are the same, just that the speaker technology is. I still stand by the fact that the Cp are based around the k series. Maybe some minor tweaks but I have read from others that they are pretty much the same. As for the fan, I have never even heard one come on in my k10 or two k12s so I don’t think that’s a necessary feature to be honest.

I will add also that I found the new K.2 versions to be a let down. I remember they pushed having more bass when they first came out but compared to my original K speakers, they have less.

Petty1818 · #22 08-13-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by varmonter

I've heard both but never in a side by side.
The cp8 has the switch on the back that gives
It different eq options like when you use it as a monitor or with a sub. The K8 has the sub switch.
I like the monitor setting on the cp8..seems to
Warm it up a bit.
Someone here posted that they were the same
Speaker.. sort of like what coke did with New And
Classic coke.. The cabinets are definitely different and the cp8 gives you more EQ settings
On the back. And the Cp8 is considerably cheaper even compared to what the K8 cost new
10 yrs ago. I can only compare the k 10.2 and
The k10..as I've owned both and like the k10 better. They dont make a cp-10.

??

The CP12 is around the same weight as the K10. I am going to get a CP12 for that reason. Maybe that’s why they decided that a CP10 wasn’t needed.

varmonter · #23 08-13-2020, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidE

No, the JBL Eon Compact does not have a sub. It's the 17lb battery powered speaker. It has an 8-inch woofer that extends low-end response to 37.5 Hz.

I guess I was thinking of this unit..

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...rray-pa-system

varmonter · #24 08-13-2020, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wweiss

varmonter
Curious why you like the K10 better than the K10.2 ?

Subjective at best but I just like the sound better.
They dont get as harsh when pushed and I think
The frequency response is more well rounded
In the k10. Not sure I can explain it other than to
My ear the k10 just sounds better..

varmonter · #25 08-13-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Petty1818

The CP12 is around the same weight as the K10. I am going to get a CP12 for that reason. Maybe that’s why they decided that a CP10 wasn’t needed.

Yes perhaps.. I cant see why your not gonna like
The cp12.. the k12 was my favorite speaker
for acoustic music. Just too big for me to schlep
Around.. mind you not so much the weight but the bulk. Just no comfortable way
to carry it. I've never seen the cp12.

jonfields45 · #26 08-13-2020, 02:22 PM

There have been a few reports that the Kx.2 fan is noisier. Perhaps doubling the power spec (which hardly shows at all in the SPL rating...) requires more aggressive cooling.

I had a K10 long ago and its fan was dead quiet.

Br1ck · #27 08-13-2020, 02:28 PM

The Gods of marketing do us no favors. The figures used are peak wattage, a figure useless really, other than you need to know wattage into 4 ohms is much greater than 8 ohms. So they use that even though the enclosures are 8 ohm. So cut that 1000 watts in half and you get 500 watts, but there are two amplifiers in each speaker so cut that in half and you get 250 watts. But that is the useless peak power rating. The more useful rating, you know, the one used back in the good old days is RMS, at best half of peak power . So what you have is 125 watts. Now the honest 125 watts next to the WIZbang 1000, well the WIZbang is more powerful, I guess I'll get that.

This does not even take into consideration speaker efficiency. My stereo system's speakers are 103db efficient, and powered by an honest 3 watts of single ended triode 2A3 tubes. I have never needed more power, nor can I play my 5 watt tweed champ at full power. It would annoy people.

I have a pair of old Peavey floor wedges that suck more power than my mains.

Br1ck · #28 08-13-2020, 02:31 PM

FWIW, I know more than one critical musician that prefers the 8" over the 12" QSCs for monitors. But the 12s are very good.

wweiss · #29 08-13-2020, 03:35 PM

Thanks for everyones great feedback, just ordered the CP8!

Petty1818 · #30 08-13-2020, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Br1ck

FWIW, I know more than one critical musician that prefers the 8" over the 12" QSCs for monitors. But the 12s are very good.

The only reason why I like the 12's over the 8's is that I like my acoustic guitars to sound nice and big and sometimes the 8's are a bit too compact in their sound. It's kind of like a dread vs. an OM. The K10's on the other hand are an odd one for me. I have one single K10 and I am not sure if I like it as much as my CP8 and K12's.

I know someone mentioned that the K speakers can get harsh when driven but honestly, at those volumes, you should almost have a larger sound system. The only time I ever heard my K12's sounding harsh was when I was driving them hard outdoors and I wasn't happy with having to go that loud.