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Truss rod issue on brand new Guild
I bought a Guild D-120 online and it arrived the other day. It was all good.
Then I checked the saddle and it was pretty high (6 mm) while the action was just right, so I used some sandpaper on the saddle and lowered it to about 4.7 mm. I tuned it all up and there was some minor buzzing. I therefore checked the neck relief and it was basically straight, so I turned the truss rod (it's a double action) by about 1/4 of a turn: no difference. I added another 1/4 of a turn: still no difference. This was a about 5 hours ago and I just checked it again: still no relief. What does this mean? I didn't feel anything weird while turning the truss rod, it just felt like any other truss rod I ever turned. The humidity where I live stays at 50-60% all year long. Thanks Last edited by angelo_; 02-04-2022 at 02:51 PM. |
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Have you taken off the tension , by loosening the strings ?
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When sanding the saddle, yes. When turning the truss rod, no.
When I measured the relief of the neck, the guitar was tuned up. |
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Are you turning the truss rod the correct direction?
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Yes, check to be sure you're turning the truss rod in the correct direction. Clockwise, looking down the length of the truss rod to lessen relief, counterclockwise to add relief.
I'm curious - if the action was just right, why sand the saddle? The normal procedure is to check/adjust the relief first, then nut slot height if needed. Then if the action is high, sand the saddle. |
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When adding relief, even with a double action truss rod, you are possibly going to be relying on string tension and the plasticity of the neck wood for certain adjustments. . Particularly if you are somewhere near the zero point of the rod.
You may find that you have to go slightly beyond where you would like to set the relief and then put the rod under tension again to bring the neck back to your desired point. I doubt if there is anything actually wrong with the truss rod.
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Exactly my thought! Like, if it ain't broke.....
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“It was all good”
“..the action was just right” Why touch the saddle or truss rod in that situation?
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you actually want the neck as straight as possible.
that you lowered the action and now get buzzing, is not surprising. there's no going back but there are shims,... you can lift the saddle a bit with one of them..
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I'm pretty sure I did. The truss rod can only be accessed from the soundhole with a pretty long Allen wrench. I put the guitar on a table and sat behind the body with the headstock away from me. I inserted the key in the hole and turned it counter-clockwise (from the high E to the low E).
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Last edited by angelo_; 02-04-2022 at 02:51 PM. |
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Anyway, I've contacted a very good local luthier. I'll ask him. If I have to, I'll send it back and get another. It's a shame becasue I really liked it. |
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The saddle was too high (6 mm) and the height of the strings from the top of the soundboard was also too high (1.4 cm).
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The saddle was too high (6 mm) and the height of the strings from the top of the soundboard was also too high (1.4 cm). |
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I know that if I lower something, I'll have to raise something else, but the fact that a truss rod can't change the relief of a neck after over 1/2 of a turn, is pretty concerning to me. The rod might be broken, and I don't want it to be broken. |
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