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Old 10-29-2016, 09:54 AM
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Default How to split out into multiple headphones?

We are almost ready to start recording our second CD and I’m wondering about how to drive two headphones at once (one for the artist and one for the “observer”)?

Is it a bad idea to plug the phone output from an Audient ID14 into something like an ART HeadAmp 4? What’s your solution?

It seems like the Audient folks spend some time getting their headphone amp to be halfway decent, and then the signal would be going into a second amp and that doesn't seem like a great idea.
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Why complicate? If your headphones are reasonably sensitive you could use a Y-cable such as
https://www.amazon.com/Scosche-3-5-H.../dp/B000AM2Z92
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Why complicate? If your headphones are reasonably sensitive you could use a Y-cable such as
https://www.amazon.com/Scosche-3-5-H.../dp/B000AM2Z92
Certainly a reasonable solution. Though I'm concerned that an enjoyable volume for one will rip the head off another.
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Certainly a reasonable solution. Though I'm concerned that an enjoyable volume for one will rip the head off another.
Easy, put in line volume control. There are lots of different ones, e.g.
https://www.amazon.com/Volume-Contro.../dp/B000TLUUAU



Personally I have an older version of one of these:


http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/2Control

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Splitting with a "Y" connector can be an exercise in aggravation unless the two headphones are of identical impedance rating, and then you can't adjust for the volume level that each would desire.

I do mobile recording in exactly the way you describe and I have the Art Headamp 4 with my rig. It's clean and there is no audible degradation of sound when using it. Each user gets their own volume control.

There is a small risk associated with using a simple "Y" adapter. Depending on how the headphone amplifier circuitry is implemented in your interface you run the risk of damage caused from halving the impedance presented to the amp circuitry. Another way of phrasing this is that you're asking the interface amp to provide more output than it was designed for. That's one of the reasons people use external headphone amps.

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I'd use the 1/4" monitor outputs on the interface to supply the headphone amp instead. Many headphone amps are set up to accept line level inputs, and some can also pass the signal on to your monitor speakers if needed.

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I'm really cheap and use a Behringer HA400.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...-headphone-amp

It does the job.
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Audible fidelity loss with using a y connector to run a pair of headphones is possible though quite unlikely (as would be running the signal through an added preamp instead), though it would be best to use headphones with matching or similar impedance/sensitivity specs. Managing independent volume levels would be a bit of a hassle, i.e. increasing the volume on one would decrease the volume on the other to some extent. For regular use of two (or more) headphones I would spring for a good headphone preamp with multiple mike outputs.
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