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Old 08-10-2018, 12:35 AM
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Default "Rooster" with M80 pickup...

Still experimenting with my Baggs M80 in various guitars....here I have put it in my 1993 Lowden LSE1 mahogany/sitka and open tuned to F and grabbed the Blue Diamond bottleneck for my solo version of Willie Dixon's "Red Rooster" direct to my A&H mixer. Vocal in my Neumann KM184....


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Old 08-10-2018, 04:07 AM
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That was fun! I liked it.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:01 AM
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Sound great as per usual ...
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:47 AM
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Still experimenting with my Baggs M80 in various guitars....here I have put it in my 1993 Lowden LSE1 mahogany/sitka and open tuned to F and grabbed the Blue Diamond bottleneck for my solo version of Willie Dixon's "Red Rooster" direct to my A&H mixer. Vocal in my Neumann KM184....


https://soundcloud.com/bk7-3/rooster777l



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Very nicely played & sung! Less is always more.

Is the guitar leaking into the vocal mic, or is that strictly the pickup direct into the board?

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Old 08-10-2018, 08:00 AM
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Thanks Kerbie, Slide496 and Howard!


The mic is picking up guitar and giving the ‘real’ acoustic sound, Howard. I have the mic off to my right to avoid plosives and to be able to breathe without recording galeforce wind sounds! The mag pickup makes the guitar sound way fuller - if it wasn’t there, the guitar sound is fairly low compared to the vocal.

I suppose everything would just feedback if I wanted the same sound live. (The bangs were the slide hitting the neck because the Lowden action is possibly a bit low for slide..... maybe the only slide played on a Lowden? Spoiled myself rotten, haven’t I?)


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Old 08-10-2018, 08:09 AM
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Thanks Kerbie, Slide496 and Howard!


The mic is picking up guitar and giving the ‘real’ acoustic sound, Howard. I have the mic off to my right to avoid plosives and to be able to breathe without recording galeforce wind sounds! The mag pickup makes the guitar sound way fuller - if it wasn’t there, the guitar sound is fairly low compared to the vocal.

I suppose everything would just feedback if I wanted the same sound live. (The bangs were the slide hitting the neck because the Lowden action is possibly a bit low for slide..... maybe the only slide played on a Lowden? Spoiled myself rotten, haven’t I?)


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BK,
Thanks for the clarity!

If you're tuned to open F the extra tension should make it a little more forgiving with the lower action, assuming you have some 'normal' gauge/tension strings on it.

Putting oneself in a position to have to make adjustments in technique is very often a great way to find a different take on a familiar theme. Along with that if you were to play it live in front of an audience, and you really played it quietly they might just really, really listen, and make it all the more intense.

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Old 08-10-2018, 09:19 AM
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BK, I love it! You’ve got the touch with that slide! Nice work
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:52 AM
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Wow, that sounds really good! Well done!

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Old 08-10-2018, 05:33 PM
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Thanks very much LWSog and Glenn!

And Howard, the guitar is in a G open type tuning lowered to F. Do people actually tune to an Open E but higher to F? I would be terrified, especially tuning the high strings up.....da dah, da dah, da dah, da dah ...pinnnnggggg.


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Old 08-10-2018, 08:46 PM
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Absolutely loved it.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:14 PM
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Thanks Sage97!

Really appreciate it!


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Old 08-11-2018, 04:07 AM
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Thanks very much LWSog and Glenn!

And Howard, the guitar is in a G open type tuning lowered to F. Do people actually tune to an Open E but higher to F? I would be terrified, especially tuning the high strings up.....da dah, da dah, da dah, da dah ...pinnnnggggg.


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Yeah, that's pretty low tension going open G to down a whole step.

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Old 08-11-2018, 05:04 AM
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Yes Howard, but it is vocal driven as I prefer F to G....

That brings up a problem with open tunings compared to standard tuning and capoing or changing the key to a comfortable one for singing.....if I had to stay in Open G, I would capo up a minor third for my voice and then we have trouble with guitar real estate running out and strings really too low for slide! ( I had trouble in bands years ago when I preferred to play/sing in Eb instead of E......a photo of the bass player’s face would have been worth keeping.......


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Old 08-11-2018, 06:36 AM
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:40 AM
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Yes Howard, but it is vocal driven as I prefer F to G....

That brings up a problem with open tunings compared to standard tuning and capoing or changing the key to a comfortable one for singing.....if I had to stay in Open G, I would capo up a minor third for my voice and then we have trouble with guitar real estate running out and strings really too low for slide! ( I had trouble in bands years ago when I preferred to play/sing in Eb instead of E......a photo of the bass player’s face would have been worth keeping.......


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BK,
I understood that when I heard the track, clearly. I was just commenting on how low the tension would be in open G tuning down a whole step.

Priorities are what they are, but they do lead to inventive solutions.

Regarding your old band, though: If Eb was okay for Stevie Ray.......

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