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For me, a tube amp can be a part of the tone party, an equal contributor to a sound that someone thinks is perfection. Oddly, tube amps can be as crystal clear high fidelity as one could ask for, but what a guitar player usually thinks of is a design created to be imperfect - a slight compression to the sound, an overdriven output transformer, overdriven input stages, a completely wonky tone stack with excess middle scoop, a brite circuit that over-emphasizes the high frequences - and all of the these frequencies in a range that a hi-fi amp considers around 10% of what the job is all about. So it's a happy confluence of a crap design, cheap construction and a magical result that is "tube tone", and designers have been chasing the perfection of those happy early mistakes for decades. Solid state amps tend to either be very clean and rely on pedals and other modifiers to get a satisfying sound - but jazz guys have been loving the Polytones and Rolands for years, very clean amps. Now power is basically free with Class D power amps, and digital software emulates any tone your can imagine for almost free, so the choice is endless. End of the day - play what you like!
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this reminds of an earlier post about swapping out the tube section for SS and mixer guy didnt even know, friend of mine played a sunn beta (forget the model) heavy sucker with 2-12, loud as you wanted and over the years the speaker went threw the wringer, i always thought it was tube amp- it wasnt
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This may have been mentioned already, but I truly feel unless you are playing at full tilt with the amp dimed the nuances everyone talks about never are any better than a good solid state amp. And also, 99% of the listening public would never know the difference even then.
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I have/had about 35 amps. Modelers by Line 6, Boss, Kemper, Helix. Cute toys that have potential but don't deliver. After Marshall, Vox, Mesa, new and vintage Fenders, I always go back to pairing a Bugera V-22 with my 1964 Fender Deluxe Reverb. The sound of these appeal the most to me, because they deliver the sound I grew up hearing in my teen years -- 1960's.
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The definitive answer , and they are empirically "warmer"
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Yes, like sitting in front of a fire on a cold night.
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Cheap SS amps sound fine clean but pretty atrocious dirty and for lead work. Good well built SS amps can come very close to sounding like a tube amp, but just close - not exactly. There is a warmth in the natural distortion in tube amps that is very difficult to achieve with SS technology. As someone that started out playing Blues harp (harmonica) over 25 years ago, I can tell you that I have NEVER played a SS amp that sounded good with harp. Tubes feel necessary to me for Blues and old school rock. There is a place for both technologies. When my wife gigs with her bass I am certainly happy that her 40 watt bass amp is SS and thus -weighs about 18 pounds.
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Maybe you should call Neil Young to tell him his sound is crap....Along with Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Ry Cooder, Santana.... should I continue?
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Not sure about the rest, but Eric Clapton has recorded on a SS amp. The rest have been using SS cirquits to get their overdrive.
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Whoa guys "Better" is totally subjective
So objectively it is not even close to being a matter of "better" . It is only a matter of preference. It does not matter who uses or does not use, which to do what . To pretend otherwise is to be unable to clearly see the correct reflection in the mirror
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I've used tube amps for 50 years. A SS clean sound can be just as good as tubes in my opinion. Some OD sounds from SS amps can be just as good as tubes. "Behind the curtain" a lot of tube vs SS differences are harder to pick out.
If it sounds good, it sounds good. Once my Twin Reverb was on the blink and I used a SS Peavey PA head for guitar . Overdriving an input gave me a very nice dirt sound. Any mention that SS can possibly compete with tubes, after 50-plus years of technological improvement, is frowned upon by some guitar players. Folks pay big bucks for tube amps and then pay big bucks for a SS OD unit. I use a Deluxe Reverb tube amp and a SS Barber Direct Drive. My acoustic guitar amp is SS.
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I do have 2 SS amps for really clean sound if needed, but nothing like a tube amp all the way baby.... |