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Everybody knows it's not the pickguard material that matters. It's the COLOR that makes a difference!!!
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....for the record theres a solid maple center block running through a 335 that the pickups are routed into....anyone who has spent much time moving parts around on electrics and or building them knows that there are definite differences in the sound of the instruments depending on design, construction, details, wood selection and electronics....yes a P-90 will almost always sound like a P-90 but no question it will sound different in
different guitars....sometimes a little different sometimes a lot....its because the sound of the string itself changes...the pickup is amplifying the sound of the strings.... |
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Yes. I have owned a 330 with no maple center block and a 335 with the center block. I played the 335 through a Twin with JBLs and it could be like an ice pick through the eardrum. All points are well taken. My bottom line from experience and limited knowledge of physics leads me in the direction that wood is a minor contributor to tone.
I had an interesting experience once with PU wiring. I split a HB with the coil nearest the bridge on in single coil mode. Then I reversed it to make the other coil active but didn't like it and switched it back. It never sounded the same. There is no physical explanation I can accept so I'm putting it down to my psychological response. The point I'm making is we can't ignore those kind of factors. What we think we hear or want to hear can be what we do hear. |
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Yes, I agree. People read the stupid sales hype nonsense that is put out by the sellers (the "dark" tones of this wood and the "bright" tones of that wood etc etc - crap!) and psychology takes over.
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Does this mean my Eric Johnson Signature Stratocaster will NOT make me play and sound like Eric Johnson????
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I read somewhere that there was a mixup at the factory with pickups going in backwards and the Eric Johnson Strat makes some people sound like John Ericson. Only he was a famous accordion player, so the tones are...different.
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That would still be an improvement for my playing... Wonder if they sold out yet?
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Good humor!
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Thanks Russ!
And it would improve my playing as well!!
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Now granted, these differrences are not as significant when you have teh gain on 10 and running a distortion pedal, but I know that each guitar will have a different response and feel. |
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As for the wood affecting the vibration of a string in a magnetic field? Originally solid body electric guitars were of value because the strings were dampened to decrease feedback. I'm interested in hearing how the wood affects the string vibration, adding or subtracting something to the electrons headed down the wire to the amp - and I don't mean that in smarty pants way! |
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For some reason many people believe that the differences in sound of electric guitars that are played "acoustically", viz. unplugged (and there are differences in this case since the shape, construction and material composition of the body does influence the way in which air molecules are caused to vibrate and the human ear can detect that difference - that, of course, that is how an acoustic guitar works) are reproduced by the pick up. But that is not so - a pick up can't detect vibrating air molecules - it works by a completely different principle. Oh and BTW, what you hear when you play a plugged in electric guitar is the loudspeaker of the amplifier not the guitar itself. And I'm afraid it is stupid sales hype. Last edited by Garthman; 08-03-2013 at 01:16 PM. |
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This is a bit of an overstatement IMO. What you hear when you hear an electric guitar plugged in is a combination of strings, pickups, amp AND speaker. It is a sum of all the components in the signal chain from the vibrating string thru the speaker. Wood has VERY little to do with this sum, but it is there. IF the speaker were the determinant factor, you would have to include the amp's output transformer as inseparable from it.
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I've also owned some cheap plywood electrics and they never sounded good regardless of the pickups I installed. |
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So then the pickups will "read" these different vibrations which are then amplified by the amplifier and converted to air movement via speaker cone. The output will be different, and its pretty simple to show this using any recording software. |