#1
|
|||
|
|||
Question for Retro Monel users
What style of playing and what style of music do you play?
I have a pack of Monels and trying to decide if I should try them on my D28 or E10D. I love the big shimmery sound of PB on my D28 but hoping to find something mellower with less noise for Blues + vocals on the E10D. Actually, I think I answered my own question lol. But still would like to hear from Monel users…. Guitar, play style and music style for those that use them. I find myself drowned out by the D28 when couch jamming, like I need to sing pretty loud with it. I can sing loud, but it sorta forces me to if I’m strumming. |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
My general rule is Monel with hog guitars.
__________________
Patrick 1968 Martin D-28 1975 Martin D-18 1976 Martin 000-18 1989 Martin 000-16M 2015 Martin 00-DB Jeff Tweedy 2012 Gibson J-45 Custom 2017 Gibson J-35 1971 Alvarez K. Yairi Classical 1970 Lou J Mancuso nylon string hybrid Harmony Sovereign H1260 30's MayBell Model 6 Nash MW-500 1998 Yamaha LS-10 2003 Tacoma EKK9 |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
The general consensus is monels on mahogany, but I put them on my EIR as well and prefer them to PBs and 80/20s. Here I am talking about Martin 000-18 and 000-28 in the main. Currently, have them on my 000-28 1937 Custom Authentic Aged and besides the great vintage sound they produce (once they settle in after about a week) they feel great on the fingers and last and last.
|
#4
|
|||
|
|||
What style of music and playing technique do you guys like with the Monels?
|
#5
|
||||
|
||||
I flatpick and strum Americana, old time, and bluegrass. Monel Retros are my "go to" strings. I use them on my D18GE and J45 and have liked them on all of my past mahogany guitars, including my old E10D and E10SS. I didn't like the Monel tone on my E20D, but they sounded good on my Martin HD28LSV. I preferred DR Rares on my E20D.
__________________
‘00 Martin HD28LSV ‘04 Martin D18GE ‘22 Burkett JB45 |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
If music sounds good played on a given guitar with a given set of strings it will also sound good played on another guitar or the same guitar with different strings.
__________________
McNally Custom Dread Adi/Hog, McNally Custom OM Cedar/Walnut 000-28 Lowden S32J Guild F-512e (Spruce/Rosewood) |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
I have used monel retro strings on my D-18, other dreads in the past, an all hog 000, and my acoustic archtop. I have a set of 80/20s on my D-18 at present but I may put monel on next string change.
I heavy gauge (1mm or above) flat pick boom/chuck, Carter style, Woody Guthrie style, cross picked style accompaniment for songs. I also Travis pick song accompaniment using a thumb pick and two metal fingerpicks. I use medium gauge strings on all my guitars. I don't plug in but mic' at gigs, so like some punch. I find that monel strings, once settled, are not subtle. You get a strong fundamental and little else once settled. I can be quite physical with the strings, like I can with a well played in set of 80/20s but the monel strings stay in their sweet spot a lot longer. I can't decide if overall I prefer 80/20s or monel on my D-18. In the 30s-40s Martin supplied heavy gauge 80/20s or medium gauge monel strings on its flattops - those were your only choices in the Martin catalogue. Try them on your D-28. Tony Rice loved them on his.
__________________
I'm learning to flatpick and fingerpick guitar to accompany songs. I've played and studied traditional noter/drone mountain dulcimer for many years. And I used to play dobro in a bluegrass band. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Americana, classic country, bit of singer-songwriter stuff. Anything from Hank Williams to Johnny Cash to Townes Van Zandt to John Prine.
Mostly boom-chuck rhythm, Carter-style melody/rhythm playing, some bluegrass-y single note runs and rockabilly-style double stop solos; some Western Swing-style chord comping, some rudimentary Travis picking (OK, more Scotty Moore than Merle Travis). I barely ever do any chord strumming with full 6-string open chords (that's what the other guitar guy in my band plays), and I suck at bluesy bare finger picking. I use a 1.3 mm Dunlop Primetone pick, small triangle shape, and the heaviest Black Mountain thumbpick for Travis picking. I love the monels on my Loar LH300 acoustic archtop, all other strings suck in direct comparison on that one; I like them on my Eastman E1D, but also like GHS Vintage Bronze or D'Addario Nickel Bronze on that one - same thing with my Guild GAD30. Don't like monels on my ladder-braced vintage Harmony H167, this one needs brighter strings. I recently got an Iris OG, but haven't gotten around to changing the original strings (D'Addario XS) yet - looking forward to trying monels, that guitar is almost too rich and pretty sounding, maybe monels will tone that down a bit? |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
I have Retros on my Waterloo WL-14 and my Epiphone Triumph archtop. On my Martin OM-28, I prefer 80/20s to the Retros.
I mostly play county and Piedmont blues, early jazz, and Plectrum-style guitar on those instruments, although I occasionally play some Old Time and bluegrass flatpicking as well. |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
I use them on my Gibson’s…the J45 and the J15.
I play folk, country, Americana, country pop and things in that vein, but other stuff as well. I like them because you get more of a “dry, punchy tone.
__________________
Nothing bothers me unless I let it. Martin D18 Gibson J45 Gibson J15 Fender Copperburst Telecaster Squier CV 50 Stratocaster Squier CV 50 Telecaster |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
Having had the life sucked out of all my guitars several times each by Monels, my general rule is - DON’T.
As always, the standard disclaimer applies - IMHO. However, I realise that YMMV, and I’m cool with that.
__________________
John Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019) Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017) Martin D-18 (2012) Martin HD-28V (2010) Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM) |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
If you prefer the zingy sound of PB you wouldn’t. I prefer PB on my D18.
__________________
Nothing bothers me unless I let it. Martin D18 Gibson J45 Gibson J15 Fender Copperburst Telecaster Squier CV 50 Stratocaster Squier CV 50 Telecaster |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
I sort of like to be telling my guitar what to do with a heavy hand and a heavy pick, rather than having it running around doing it's own thing at the lightest touch!
__________________
I'm learning to flatpick and fingerpick guitar to accompany songs. I've played and studied traditional noter/drone mountain dulcimer for many years. And I used to play dobro in a bluegrass band. |
#14
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Enjoy your D-18 fella, whatever strings you choose - I love mine!
__________________
John Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019) Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017) Martin D-18 (2012) Martin HD-28V (2010) Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM) |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Yep! It always amazes me how much every guitar I play sounds just like me playing it.
__________________
I'm learning to flatpick and fingerpick guitar to accompany songs. I've played and studied traditional noter/drone mountain dulcimer for many years. And I used to play dobro in a bluegrass band. |