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Froggy Bottom owners - anyone try using a compensated saddle?
Anyone experiment with a compensated saddle on a Froggy? I know they pretty much all come with straight saddles.
So, curious if any Froggy owners have had intonation issues (perhaps in certain tunings, or with certain strings/gauges) and how you have addressed that. The following was posted quite a while back...so not sure if since then, there have been more who have experimented with this? Quote:
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First of all, the saddles that come with Froggy Bottoms are thin, so you can’t compensate them much. My intonation was spot on for my H-12 and C, so no compensation was ever needed. I felt that my K model would benefit and I brought it to my guitar tech. He compensated the saddle a bit and it has been great for 6 years. I bought a new M model a year ago and the only string that would benefit from compensation is the low E, which runs a little sharp at the 5th fret. Covid slowed things down and I’ve delayed getting a setup on the M. I have an appointment for a setup next week and plan to have him look at compensation at that time. While it’s easy to find a “happy” tuning for the Low E, I think a slight adjustment will be easy and welcomed. I find the action to be a bit high, so I’d like to see what happens when he looks over the entire setup. Perhaps dropping the E string with help intonation of that string.
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I have to admit to not knowing the saddles are not compensated. I know adjusting the truss rod is tricky but I’ve had my K for 13 years now and have only noticed buzzing with a new string where it does not seat well, usually one of the treble strings. Maybe some use a Spring and Autumn saddle?
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A half step seems like a lot. I’m off by a couple-few cents at most, and only on the Low E at the 5th fret and beyond. This is in line with some of my other guitars I’ve had that came with compensated saddles. Also, luckily for me, I don’t seem to notice the slightly sharp tone on the Low E string much even if I don’t adjust the tuning on that string, so not such a big deal in my case. I thought the K was a bit too far off for my liking & proceeded with the adjustment. In any case, I will let you know what transpires. I’ve been told that it’s easier to keep intonation in hand with shorter scales, but I have no idea if this is true or not.
Last edited by BrunoBlack; 04-02-2021 at 03:58 PM. |
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But yes, thank you in advance for letting me know your outcome!
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I just got my Froggy M back from a setup and it needed lowering at the nut and saddle. I believe he said the Low E was at 1/8” when he started. My Truss Rod adjustment was just fine. After the setup, the guitar plays like a dream and the intonation is great on all strings with no need to compensate the saddle.
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No intonation issues on the three we have.
hans
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1971 Papazian (swiss spruce/braz RW) 1987 Lowden L32p (sitka/ind RW) 1992 Froggy Bottom F (19th cent. german spruce/koa) 2000 Froggy Bottom H12c (adir/ind RW) 2016 Froggy Bottom K mod (adir/madrose; my son's) 2010 Voyage-Air VAOM-2C http://www.soundclick.com/hanstunes (recorded on Froggy H12c) |
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Zero issues. Compensation does not seem necessary.
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Taylor LKSM-12 - Larrivee B-19, L-11 - Brook Tavy Baritone, Torridge - McIlroy AS20 - Lowden BAR-50 FF - Yamaha LJ-56 |