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Old 07-05-2014, 12:39 PM
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Default Goya neck rest advice and bridge work.

I'm debating buying a vintage goya S-16 as a project. I'm getting it pretty cheaply since it needs some neck and bridge work. I'm buying the guitar sight unseen online, so no inspection of braces or anything internal. I can tell that theirs a crack in the neck right by the fretboard where the neck joins the body, and the bridge is lifting. I know the neck is a bolt on neck, so it should be an easier neck reset. As long as the bridge plate isn't damaged I think the bridge just needs to be re-glued.

Just seeing if any forum member has reset a bolt on goya neck before and had any insight. My main worry is the neck crack. The action at the 12th fret is super high. I have a soft spot for goya's since I learned on my dads. Just seeing if this s-16 is a lost cause before I commit to buy.

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Old 07-05-2014, 12:54 PM
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The only Goya guitar I have seen that is worth owning was designed by Martin, built in Japan and said so on the label. Older Goya guitars I have played are junk and not worth a neck reset.
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I actually owned two goya martins from the late 70's early 80's. Both were decent guitars, but we're only solid tops. My dads 1950's goya G-20 is incredible and blows most classical guitars away. I've only played it and an N-21 levin goya and both were all solid woods and sounded pretty good.
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I guess not many members own a goya steel string...
Well if it's a lost cause I'll just hang on the wall for display for what it cost. Rather fix it up, but I think it's repairs are above my skill level.
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Here is a link to a 1958 catalog page with info on the Goya S-16.
http://goyaguitars.tripod.com/s18.htm
http://goyaguitars.tripod.com/catalog58_10.htm

VG Price Guide lists values for 1950s Goya flat tops in the $400 to $700 range, if excellent and all original condition.

If you the work yourself, it should be a positive project. Once you have the neck off, you should be able to glue and clamp the neck to fix the crack shown in the photos before resetting the neck.

Here is a nice example of this model:
http://antebelluminstruments.blogspo...16-guitar.html
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Here is a link to a 1958 catalog page with info on the Goya S-16.
http://goyaguitars.tripod.com/s18.htm
http://goyaguitars.tripod.com/catalog58_10.htm

VG Price Guide lists values for 1950s Goya flat tops in the $400 to $700 range, if excellent and all original condition.

If you the work yourself, it should be a positive project. Once you have the neck off, you should be able to glue and clamp the neck to fix the crack shown in the photos before resetting the neck.

Here is a nice example of this model:
http://antebelluminstruments.blogspo...16-guitar.html
Thanks brian a.!
I've never done a neck reset before, but I'm getting this levin goya for under $100.00. The mahogany alone is gorgeous on this guitar. The alpine spruce top is also nice.

I learned today that once you unbolt the neck you can slide sand paper between the heel and the body and just pull the paper through 30-40 times each direction. This will allow you to change the neck angle w/o separating the fretboard from the top of the body.
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The only Goya guitar I have seen that is worth owning was designed by Martin, built in Japan and said so on the label. Older Goya guitars I have played are junk and not worth a neck reset.
The older Goyas made in Sweden that I've played have been pretty impressive--to the point where I'd be shocked if the Martin-outsourced Goyas were better. Perhaps I've been lucky to play really outstanding examples though...

I think the project is very much worthwhile, and you could end up with a great keeper in the end. Brian a's comments are spot on by the way.
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The older Goyas made in Sweden that I've played have been pretty impressive--to the point where I'd be shocked if the Martin-outsourced Goyas were better. Perhaps I've been lucky to play really outstanding examples though...

I think the project is very much worthwhile, and you could end up with a great keeper in the end. Brian a's comments are spot on by the way.
I completely agree. I had a classical and steel stringed goya/martin and it was a good beach guitar. But the two vintage Swedish made levin goya's I've played were very balanced, and also had VERY comfortable neck profiles considering their age. I'll hopefully have the guitar by next week and start working on it the following week and after I get some hide glue and other minor supplies.
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I guess I just haven't tried enough of them. Hope this one turns out really nice. The bolt on neck reset should be pretty easy. Good luck!
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I guess I just haven't tried enough of them. Hope this one turns out really nice. The bolt on neck reset should be pretty easy. Good luck!
Older martins and Gibson's sound terrible too...If they're not cared for. I can tell this guitar hasn't been cared for over the last 50yrs. But if I can get it back into playable condition, maybe it will be a great guitar. I think half the fun in this adventure is learning how to work on the guitar!
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The older Goyas made in Sweden that I've played have been pretty impressive--to the point where I'd be shocked if the Martin-outsourced Goyas were better. Perhaps I've been lucky to play really outstanding examples though...

I think the project is very much worthwhile, and you could end up with a great keeper in the end. Brian a's comments are spot on by the way.
I agree with this. The post-Sweden Martin Goyas are nice entry level guitars, but certainly not up to the quality of the Swedish Levin made instruments which are professional quality guitars. I have a 1958 Goya M-26, a dreadnought (Levin called them Goliaths) with solid flame maple back & sides, solid spruce top and Brazilian board and bridge.
I also own a Gibson LG1 and a Martin D-21, but I play the Goya just as often as the other two.
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My sister has a an all-solid wood Goya that she bought around 1965 or 66. Made in Sweden, birch back and sides with a walnut stain, natural finish spruce top. I donít know what model number it is but itís a 3/4 size instrument with a tiny little neck that she selected because she has tiny little hands (sheís not a large person.)

When Wayne Henderson built her a 12 fret Double O she specified that she wanted him to duplicate the neck of the Goya she owns, so he did.


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