The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > RECORD

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-28-2016, 03:12 PM
Taylorplayer Taylorplayer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: A Truly Great Lakes State
Posts: 11,619
Default For The IMac Users

Hello:

I am going to purchase another iMac. I've been an Apple enthusiast (happily over-paying for their products) and all since about 1985. I currently have a 21" mid-2011 that is now in a home office about to become occupied by my wife. I am being re-located to our basement office (hey, it's a nice space also and not worth the argument) ;-)

As such, I need to purchase another Mac soon. I have been looking at this certified refurbished one as an option:

Refurbished 21.5-inch iMac 3.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 with Retina 4K display

Originally released October 2015
21.5-inch (diagonal) Retina 4K display with IPS technology; 4096-by-2304 resolution
8GB memory
2TB Fusion Drive
Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200
Built-in FaceTime HD camera
$1,699.00
Select

But, there are also new models out now as well. Much is being made about the hard drive being very slow on the new ones, however. I am aware that you can special order with different configurations (which is where everything gets a little "fuzzy" for me...).

Above and beyond the basics (email and Word), I will be using it for photography and recording work.

Anyone care to offer any suggestions (staying within the Apple realm, please)?

Thanks!
Will
__________________
Will
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-28-2016, 03:29 PM
Orfeas Orfeas is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,959
Default For The IMac Users

I use solely Apple for recording music, videos, and editing photos. What you have described is a good one. If you want more smooth graphics it will be more expensive by upping up RAM (16 GB) and your graphics card (Custom configuration). I think this model will cover your needs well for years. If you need advice on software/apps let me know.
__________________
SCGC Custom OM Mars spruce/cocobolo
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-28-2016, 03:54 PM
muscmp muscmp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 8,128
Default

will: i have purchased refurbs thru apple and have had no problems. note that it will come with a 1 yr. warranty. i'm not a believer in extended warranty plans but you can probably do so if you wish.

i'm presently using a 2010 imac, 27" and it has been a great workhorse for photography thru photoshop and music recording thru logic pro. as another said, you'll want to buy 8gb more ram separately and it is very easy to install. i use separate usb 3.0 hard drives to house my photos and music recordings leaving the main drive as slim as possible to do its thing.

play music!
__________________

2014 Martin 00015M
2009 Martin 0015M
2008 Martin HD28
2007 Martin 000-18GE
2006 Taylor 712
2006 Fender Parlor GDP100
1978 Fender F65
1968 Gibson B25-12N
Various Electrics
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-28-2016, 06:14 PM
Taylorplayer Taylorplayer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: A Truly Great Lakes State
Posts: 11,619
Thumbs up

So, if I'm reading this right, I'm getting a "thumbs up" on this one - right?

Refurbished 21.5-inch iMac 3.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 with Retina 4K display

Originally released October 2015
21.5-inch (diagonal) Retina 4K display with IPS technology; 4096-by-2304 resolution
8GB memory [NOTE BUMPING THIS TO 16 GB]
2TB Fusion Drive
Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200
Built-in FaceTime HD camera
$1,699.00
Select
__________________
Will
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-28-2016, 10:08 PM
Mobilemike Mobilemike is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,133
Default

Yup, bump that RAM to 16 GB and you will have an awesome machine that will do you right for many years!

-Mike
__________________
Taylor Baritone-8 • Martin 000-18GE 1937 • Lyle L-10 • Martin Custom D-15SM
2013 Gibson J35 • Early 70's Gibson J50 • Yamaha LL16 • Pono 0000-20SP • Avalon Legacy A10c • Martin D18 • Halcyon#135 • Guild D-125-12
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
JohnW63 JohnW63 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,450
Default

The Fusion Drive is a combo regular spinning drive with a SSD drive in it. The 2TB version has 128GB SSD drive. Anything stored on THAT part is going to be fast. Apple's OS is supposed to figure out just what you use the most and move it there.
__________________
2010 Guild F47R
2009 G & L Tribute "Legacy"
1975 Ovation Legend
1986 Ovation 1758 12 String
2007 Walden G2070
2008 Guild D55 Prototype
1998 Guild Starfire IV
2013 Guild Newark St. X-175B
2016 Guild Newark St. X-175 Sunburst
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-29-2016, 07:10 AM
KevWind's Avatar
KevWind KevWind is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Edge of Wilderness Wyoming
Posts: 11,017
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnW63 View Post
The Fusion Drive is a combo regular spinning drive with a SSD drive in it. The 2TB version has 128GB SSD drive. Anything stored on THAT part is going to be fast. Apple's OS is supposed to figure out just what you use the most and move it there.
It's years since I had an iMac, I've had a MacPro since 2011. So couple questions, do both drives show up on the desk top ? And are you the user, not able select what goes on what drive ? Because to my mind you would actually want the OS to be on the SSD and music sessions and photos to be stored on the spinner.
__________________
" Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Enjoy the Journey.... Kev...


KevWind at Soundcloud
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-29-2016, 08:36 AM
panrzem panrzem is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Dallas (North), Texas
Posts: 102
Default

I love Macs as well, but these days I wouldn't go less than a 27 inch monitor. Since you are upgrading from a 2011 Mac you will still see a big improvement if you went with the i5 CPU.

I would go with this one and of course bump it to 16GB RAM


Refurbished 27-inch iMac 3.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i5 with Retina 5K display
Originally released October 2015
27-inch (diagonal) Retina 5K display with IPS technology; 5120‑by‑2880 resolution
8GB memory
1TB Fusion Drive

AMD Radeon R9 M390
Built-in FaceTime HD camera
$1,699.00
Save $300.00
15% off
__________________
Seagull Maritime SWS
Alvarez Delta Blues DELTA610ETSB
G&L Tribute ASAT Classic
G&L Tribute Legacy
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-29-2016, 09:07 AM
Taylorplayer Taylorplayer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: A Truly Great Lakes State
Posts: 11,619
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by panrzem View Post
I love Macs as well, but these days I wouldn't go less than a 27 inch monitor. Since you are upgrading from a 2011 Mac you will still see a big improvement if you went with the i5 CPU.

I would go with this one and of course bump it to 16GB RAM


Refurbished 27-inch iMac 3.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i5 with Retina 5K display
Originally released October 2015
27-inch (diagonal) Retina 5K display with IPS technology; 5120‑by‑2880 resolution
8GB memory
1TB Fusion Drive

AMD Radeon R9 M390
Built-in FaceTime HD camera
$1,699.00
Save $300.00
15% off



You make an excellent point. Do you know if bumping up the ram to 16 GB would require a new card? I have heard about the ram now being soldered in place.... So, I'm not really sure about the implications of that.

Also, would that have a built in disc drive? I can always add an external one. Wouldn't be a deal breaker - just wondering.

Thanks!
Will
__________________
Will
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-29-2016, 12:00 PM
muscmp muscmp is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 8,128
Default

will: 21" has 8gb soldered into place and is not upgradeable. 27" has 8gb soldered into place but only two of the 4 slots. so the other two slots can hold 56gb giving you a total of 64gb, if you wish. i'm not sure of your card question, but, if you mean the video card, i'm sure it is upgradeable, but, probably by apple as you don't want to have to buy the kit to take off the glass screen. as far as disc drive, if you mean cd/dvd, i don't believe they have had those for at least a couple of years, but, you can get an external one fairly cheap.
i have the 27", but from 2010, and i really appreciate the extra real estate.
hope this helps.

play music!
__________________

2014 Martin 00015M
2009 Martin 0015M
2008 Martin HD28
2007 Martin 000-18GE
2006 Taylor 712
2006 Fender Parlor GDP100
1978 Fender F65
1968 Gibson B25-12N
Various Electrics
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-29-2016, 06:39 PM
Taylorplayer Taylorplayer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: A Truly Great Lakes State
Posts: 11,619
Default

Thanks everyone-the info is much appreciated!
__________________
Will
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-29-2016, 11:45 PM
tadol tadol is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 3,263
Default

Not to be contrary - but you can do all those things and alot more with an iPad. And do them in alot more places, alot more easily -

And if I were buying an iMac, I would definitely get the 27" screen -
__________________
More than a few Santa Cruz’s, a few Sexauers, a Patterson, a Larrivee, a Lynch, a Cumpiano, and a Klepper!!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-30-2016, 05:41 AM
paulp1960 paulp1960 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 909
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevWind View Post
It's years since I had an iMac, I've had a MacPro since 2011. So couple questions, do both drives show up on the desk top ? And are you the user, not able select what goes on what drive ? Because to my mind you would actually want the OS to be on the SSD and music sessions and photos to be stored on the spinner.
No the fusion drive appears to the OS as only a single drive. You have no control over what goes on the spinning disk and what goes on the ssd portion.

I think over time the most frequently accessed files end up on the ssd, up to the ssd capacity of course.
__________________
Ibanez ArtWood AW3010CE-LG dread
Yamaha AC3M
Squier Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster
Squier Vintage Modified Telecaster Special
Yamaha BB414 Bass
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-30-2016, 07:10 AM
KevWind's Avatar
KevWind KevWind is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Edge of Wilderness Wyoming
Posts: 11,017
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tadol View Post
Not to be contrary - but you can do all those things and alot more with an iPad. And do them in alot more places, alot more easily -

And if I were buying an iMac, I would definitely get the 27" screen -
I agree about 27 in. simply because my sessions tend to have multiple tracks and I like having more screen real estate.

Not to be counter contrary, (and not sure what you mean by "all those things")while great for portability, an iPad is pretty limited for recording and extremely limited for editing audio.
__________________
" Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Enjoy the Journey.... Kev...


KevWind at Soundcloud

Last edited by KevWind; 03-30-2016 at 07:40 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-30-2016, 07:15 AM
KevWind's Avatar
KevWind KevWind is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Edge of Wilderness Wyoming
Posts: 11,017
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulp1960 View Post
No the fusion drive appears to the OS as only a single drive. You have no control over what goes on the spinning disk and what goes on the ssd portion.

I think over time the most frequently accessed files end up on the ssd, up to the ssd capacity of course.
Ah OK so then with fusion only way to make sure your sessions/projects end up on a separate drive is to get and external drive.
__________________
" Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein
Enjoy the Journey.... Kev...


KevWind at Soundcloud
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > RECORD

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=