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When you figure out how to grow BRW in New Hampshire, let us know.
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interesting article.
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I do wonder if Brazilian Rosewood can be (or is currently being) farmed sustainability to make guitars. I don’t know enough about how fast it grows to know how long it would take to grow a tree suitably large for a Quartersawn guitar back.
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.......magic
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If you don’t mind sharing, I’d be very interested to hear what models the BRWs were and what models the EIRs are? |
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Brazilian Rosewood trees grow at about 1.2 cm a year in width, and perhaps 2 to 3 feet per year in height. Probably would take 70 to 75 years to grow a tree 3 feet in width. They can probably tolerate temperatures as low as 30°F so a Brazilian Rosewood forest in New England wouldn’t work. However they might be able to grow in Florida. I did found this website https://treeplantation.com/rosewood.html suggesting that there may be people looking to set up rosewood plantations in Florida.
As for the guy that was arrested for trying to transport BR seeds to Fiji to start a plantation. His seeds were confiscated and sent to a museum. The end destination of the confiscated seeds was that some of the trees were going to be planted and some were going to be studied. In fact he was not depleting the supply of BR, he was on a project to increase the supply. The US government did a disservice to Brazilian Rosewood. There will be less trees in the future due to their action. A sustainable and profitable plantation(s) in Fiji would be more likely to continue the existence of this plant, than planting a few for show and growing the plants in a lab. I wonder if this guy realized that the profits would be harvested by his grandkids?
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I more a Mahogany guy anyway.
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The OPs question is hopefully helping further raise awareness about our use, mis-use, over-use, and ab-use of natural resources. We’ve ignored the real costs of many of these materials we love, assuming that if we offer more money, then “magically”, more will be found or become available. We don’t seem to really understand that extinction is pretty permanent, and whatever the reason or cause, when you cut down the last tree, whether its to subsistence farm or to try and build a bespoke musical instrument, then that material is gone. And many resources and environments we’d like to preserve - with a thought to generations coming after us - are under serious attack, with too many thinking only of their own pocketbook and no thought of the planet beyond their minuscule lifespan. We - this generation - don’t have any options for our use. But if we think that Braz RW is important to build great instruments in the future, then we need to help preserve those trees trying to grow now, preserve the environments they need to be able to grow, and encourage planting more, knowing that we are doing it not for ourselves, or even for our children, and maybe not theirs, but maybe for generations further than that. And in the meantime, we should build instruments that can and will be repaired and rebuilt and passed along to players who come after us - But for now - there is good quality Braz RW available, and luthiers building with it. Its just not cheap, and that’s OK, ‘cause we’ve proven there are a lot of really good and inexpensive alternatives easily available.
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Why Can't We Get Some New Good Quality Brazilian Rosewood?
For what it is worth, I am one of the many who cannot tell BRW from EIR and probably ovangkol would trick me. Heck, carbon fiber sounds pretty good also.
From what some have said before , should I assume that the value is more in the rarity of these endangered wood? And is it possible that the great sound is more from the age of the guitar than the difference in woods? Also is there any risk to the supply of EIR? Just asking Thanks Whvick |
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Given its rate of growth (and value to humans). It would be unlikely to replace the fauna on Fiji island.
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I have read that a BRW trees needs to grow in the presence of other trees, that it will not respond in a plantation situation.
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