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Hi any websites that give classical TABS not Standard notation. I just don't have the time or patience to read music .Thanks.
I'd suggest finding a good teacher to help reading notation, or starting with 'Solo Guitar Playing' by Frederick Noad. The advantages will be huge - TAB is an inefficient way to read music.

Also, which is very important, problem solving and keeping you brain active (by learning to read notation) helps delay Alzheimer's.

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Pretty much true. From my point of view, I don't understand the hobbyist/amateur guitarist world. I started playing in 1960 and all I ever wanted to do was play in bands and make $$$. I just never thought of it as a hobby and learning was very easy and quick for me, I guess, because I had 9 yrs of violin/school orchestra behind me so I could read and understand notation and theory. It's hard for me to understand those who decide to struggle with learning to play just for fun - it can be really hard work and time consuming and, to me, there's no point in playing if you can't do it on a professional level. Some folks seem happy to learn a few chords and play around the campfire and that's perfectly fine if that makes you happy.
That's ok Skip

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I'd suggest finding a good teacher to help reading notation, or starting with 'Solo Guitar Playing' by Frederick Noad. The advantages will be huge - TAB is an inefficient way to read music.

Also, which is very important, problem solving and keeping you brain active (by learning to read notation) helps delay Alzheimer's.

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very very good advice ! will do !
Tab is not an inefficient way to read, imo for many of us.

Your mind is going to translate the notation to tab on the fretboard anyway unless you memorize every note location on the fretboard, in standard at least. Then tab would be redundant.
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[QUOTE=TBman;7115913]Tab is not an inefficient way to read, imo for many of us.
Your mind is going to translate the notation to tab on the fretboard anyway unless you memorize every note location

How can one be a professional/expert level player without knowing the location of all the notes on the fretboard? I just can't fathom any other way to go about it. That's why I had to give up on DADGAD because all the notes are in the wrong places and I'm way to old to learn a whole new tuning just to play a half dozen or so songs that like. Plus, I rarely play anyone else's arrangement of anything and I can't improvise a new arrangement if I don't know where the notes are. I've managed to find notation for most of them and arranged the others myself.
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Tab is not an inefficient way to read, imo for many of us.
Your mind is going to translate the notation to tab on the fretboard anyway unless you memorize every note location
How can one be a professional/expert level player without knowing the location of all the notes on the fretboard? I just can't fathom any other way to go about it. That's why I had to give up on DADGAD because all the notes are in the wrong places and I'm way to old to learn a whole new tuning just to play a half dozen or so songs that like. Plus, I rarely play anyone else's arrangement of anything and I can't improvise a new arrangement if I don't know where the notes are. I've managed to find notation for most of them and arranged the others myself.
I think maybe that's why many pick one favorite tuning and more or less stay in that tuning .... Al Petteway, Pierre Bensusan - DADGAD, Stephen Wake, Steve Baughman - Orkney tuning, etc.

Non-professionals like me do what they want, but memorizing all of the standard notes, at least to fret 14, wouldn't be that hard and now that I'm "teaching" myself classical it's probably a good idea.
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Acknowledging that notation has much more information and that Tab has its uses for those of us who have not invested the time to master it, or who play in multiple tunings where the mental gymnastics get challenging, I can recommend the following books that contain both….
Classical Guitar Favorites with Tablature by David Nadal
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And The Classical Guitar Compendium by Bridget Mermikides
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It should be noted that Tabs are often imperfect (either because they are a software translation or because they represent the preference of someone with more agile fingers) and the investigation of alternative fingerings is important if they don’t seem to make sense to the player.
To me, the most important thing is to enjoy making the music.
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Tab is not an inefficient way to read, imo for many of us.
Your mind is going to translate the notation to tab on the fretboard anyway unless you memorize every note location

How can one be a professional/expert level player without knowing the location of all the notes on the fretboard? I just can't fathom any other way to go about it. That's why I had to give up on DADGAD because all the notes are in the wrong places and I'm way to old to learn a whole new tuning just to play a half dozen or so songs that like. Plus, I rarely play anyone else's arrangement of anything and I can't improvise a new arrangement if I don't know where the notes are. I've managed to find notation for most of them and arranged the others myself.
I would suggest very very few AGFers would say that is their goal.
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I would suggest very very few AGFers would say that is their goal.
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Tab is not an inefficient way to read, imo for many of us.
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How can one be a professional/expert level player without knowing the location of all the notes on the fretboard? I just can't fathom any other way to go about it. That's why I had to give up on DADGAD because all the notes are in the wrong places and I'm way to old to learn a whole new tuning just to play a half dozen or so songs that like. Plus, I rarely play anyone else's arrangement of anything and I can't improvise a new arrangement if I don't know where the notes are. I've managed to find notation for most of them and arranged the others myself.
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