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Old 06-13-2022, 06:46 PM
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They can get way worse as well, at the current delamination of the OPs, it is very repairable without having to do a full refinish

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Old 06-14-2022, 09:25 AM
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They can get way worse as well, at the current delamination of the OPs, it is very repairable without having to do a full refinish

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Old 06-14-2022, 09:41 AM
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Is nitro cracking and peeling on headstocks a quality control issue?, simply is what it is.

Taylors are not finished with nitro rather UV Cured (thin) polyurethane

stuff is usually hard as nails.
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Old 06-14-2022, 11:41 AM
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Taylors are not finished with nitro rather UV Cured (thin) polyurethane

stuff is usually hard as nails.
Well, not really. The gloss parts are UV cured polyester.
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:09 PM
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stuff is usually hard as nails.
You are correct, one of the problems with being such a tough finish is if you get under the finish and seperate it from the wood it goes opaque in colour but is still structurally solid, this is why we wick superglue in to re establish the bond

The gibson photo was to show that most finishes suffer some form of issue and its not a quality control problem but simply is what it is

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Well, not really. The gloss parts are UV cured polyester.
kind like a leisure suit!
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Old 06-15-2022, 08:34 AM
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Ohhhh-kaaaay..........
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Old 06-15-2022, 08:41 AM
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I guess I should tell you that I have a Taylor that has the same issue. It is a gorgeous 2004 710ce that I bought new-old-stock but used as far as warranty is concerned a couple of years ago. There was a period around 2004 in the introduction of Taylor's high-solids, UV-cured poly finish when there was a rash of this problem showing up on new guitars. Taylor took care of the issue as they always do. I got a killer deal on this guitar and it sounds great so one day I'll get its skin problems fixed!

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That's interesting, because my 414CE is indeed a 2004.
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Old 06-15-2022, 05:56 PM
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There are literally millions and millions of guitars that do not have finish delamination. While there are other causes (especially on older guitars subjected to high humidity), improper surface preparation or using incompatible products are prime reasons for finish delamination on newish guitars.

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The gibson photo was to show that most finishes suffer some form of issue and its not a quality control problem but simply is what it is
In other words, this guitar is the exact same quality as all those Taylors made before or since that do not have delaminating finish. Give me a break.
Catalyzed polyester has been around for a long time, and all those Asian guitars made since the 1960's rarely have delaminating finishes. Taylor just jumped in without doing their homework, and it bit them. If no QC is involved, then why would they even consider repairing these under warranty? And if it is an ongoing issue, then why bother repairing them at all?
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Old 10-20-2023, 06:49 AM
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Who did the work? Did you have to replace the Taylor logo? Mine is just starting to peel up but it’s driving me crazy. I added a chrome washer between the headstock and tuner nut to cover up the damage. The washers are slightly larger diameter that the nuts so it covers up most of the damage and especially the edge where the problem started. I used chrome so they match up nicely to the finish on the tuners and you would never notice them if I didn’t point them out
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