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1st basement recording demo
Our basement is a work in progress, but we made a lot of headway this year. We renovated our other bath this past month and I took use of the dumpster the builder provided! I actually have most of one side free of unused household items, toys and decorations that we had zero use for! So now I have room for my 2 ATS panels, mic and music stands and a bunch of other music gear. Here's my first recording. The mics are about 2-3 feet from the guitar, left and right side.
WA 14 on the treble side and WA 47Jr on the bass side. No eq, just a fade at the end. Recorded with the Pellerin SJ CW.
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That sounds much better although I expect you were a sweaty mess by the time you were finished. It was hot here in the northeast today.
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Nice clear recording... nice sounding guitar, too...
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I think that's an improvement on your previous demo. Your treble notes are ringing out a bit louder now.
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Better than your last recording with the air running for sure. But 2-3 feet is pretty tough to get way with in less than ideal acoustics. I'd try 8-10 inches, I think you'll like it better.
A short little clip like this is great for experimenting. Try 6 inches, 8, 10, 12, 16, 24, 32 and so on. Normalize the volume on all of them so you're not fooled by Fletcher-Munson and then see which you like the best. My money'd be on 8-10 inches as your sweet spot, but it all depends on the guitar, the other aspects of mic placement, the room, and so on. I'd save 2-3 feet for when you're recording in a totally pro studio, and even then, most people recording the kinds of stuff you are doing use very close micing.
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I'd like to hear more presence and less room sound. The way to get that is to get closer to the mics.
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I'd work on breathing regularly, find clothes that don't rustle, chairs that don't squeak, etc. The other solution is to be sure to play louder than the extraneous noises you make. If the guitar is projecting well, the other noises may seem quieter in comparison. .
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Comping could be a big help also. There's no rule that says you have to play a piece all the way through from start to finish. You can play it in segments and then create a track from the best parts. That way you can discard any parts of the song where you go full rhino with the breathing.
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My recordings are really starting to pop for the first time! Great stereo image and a wide, fat sound when I pan hard L and R. And my room certainly leaves a lot to be desired (plenty of reflections), so the close mic method helps with that. I can mix in an appropriate "room reverb" once I have the other tracks, but I prefer to start with as dry a track as possible to avoid amplifying anything unwanted in compression or EQ. Thanks, Doug!
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Hi Barry!
I think the recording sounds good. I do notice a fair amount of background hiss, telling me that you're having to turn up the gain quite a bit to get enough volume. As others have commented, having the mics closer will probably help with that. I pretty much find that placing the mcis 8-10" away from the guitar works about the best. Enjoy your new recording space, Barry! - Glenn
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