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Old 06-29-2018, 09:06 AM
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I'm writing a song this morning where I'm using both the three-finger open G chord and the four-finger version where the pinky is down on the D note on the third fret. I'm trying to differentiate between the two G chords in in the chart I'm making, but I lack the theory knowledge to figure out the name of the four-finger version. Can someone bail me out? :-)
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:22 AM
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I'm writing a song this morning where I'm using both the three-finger open G chord and the four-finger version where the pinky is down on the D note on the third fret. I'm trying to differentiate between the two G chords in in the chart I'm making, but I lack the theory knowledge to figure out the name of the four-finger version. Can someone bail me out? :-)
If you are playing the 2nd fret on your A string (B note) then your playing a G chord, you are just eliminating one of the 3rds of the chord by moving your open B string to a D note, the 5th of the chord.

I like to not play the 2nd fret A string B note and mute it..then i have a modal G chord, no 3rd at all. I much prefer this voicing, you might consider giving it a try.
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:32 AM
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If you are playing the 2nd fret on your A string (B note) then your playing a G chord, you are just eliminating one of the 3rds of the chord by moving your open B string to a D note, the 5th of the chord.

I like to not play the 2nd fret A string B note and mute it..then i have a modal G chord, no 3rd at all. I much prefer this voicing, you might consider giving it a try.
I know the sound you're talking about, and I like it, too. :-)

For this song, I'd like to stick with the two versions of G I mentioned. The reason I'm asking is that the chord charts my jam group creates for songs are simple... they refer to chords only by name, not by tab or diagrams. I'm looking for names to call these two G chords, so that our beginners can see there's a difference between the versions I want them to play. They don't need to necessarily understand what the name means. I can easily show them that when we play together. But they do need to see that there isn't only one version of G in the song.
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I call the 4-finger G chord "rock G" - and I've seen it called that by some guy on youtube too. I didn't encounter that shape as an option until some years ago, when I kept seeing it in charts for rock songs. Never (up to that point) for folk or acoustic songs.

So my suggestion is "rock G" for that one, and maybe "folk G" for the other one. Or - less ambiguously - "4-finger G" and "3-finger G".

If you need different names for a chord chart (ie for writing/reading) ... then I'd suggest just using chord boxes, and maybe labelling them "G(i)" and "G(ii)", whichever way round you like.
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i think JonPR ideas are great and prob best for your application. However, if you really wanted to help them grow as players and begin to understand what they are doing, i'd suggest G and Gmodal or Gno3.
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As maplebaby noted, there is no theoretical difference between the quality of these chords because you still stacking notes from the fundamental G triad. In the first voicing the G has two thirds and one fifth while the second voicing has one third and two fifths.
Because that second third in the first voicing is really a tenth, I suppose you could call it G10th and the other voicing (with two fifths, where the second fifth is really a twelfth) G12th.
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I'm writing a song this morning where I'm using both the three-finger open G chord and the four-finger version where the pinky is down on the D note on the third fret. I'm trying to differentiate between the two G chords in in the chart I'm making, but I lack the theory knowledge to figure out the name of the four-finger version. Can someone bail me out? :-)
Hi Db

My gigging partner and I call them Traditional G and Four-Finger-G (which matches up with Four-Finger-C, and Four-Finger-F).

And if you lift the middle finger off the Low E when playing Four-Finger-G, you get a version of Em7.


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If you are playing the 2nd fret on your A string (B note) then your playing a G chord, you are just eliminating one of the 3rds of the chord by moving your open B string to a D note, the 5th of the chord.

I like to not play the 2nd fret A string B note and mute it..then i have a modal G chord, no 3rd at all. I much prefer this voicing, you might consider giving it a try.


If you’re playing 3x0033, then you’re playing only roots and fifths, a power chord, not a different voicing of a G major.

For the OP, I’ve also heard that chord named “big G”. I guess it’s because it’s a brighter sounding G chord. 3 or 4 finger G chords are both G major, just a different voicing.
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Back in the day, I heard this referred to as a "Beatles G" given its sound in relation to some of their songs.
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When I was growing up, I saw my Dad use the 4 finger G chord all the time, and the only thing I ever heard him or his friends call it was the "Country G"...
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Thanks to everyone. This has been both amusing and educational... I had no idea there'd be such a range of answers. :-) I'll mull it all over and pick something that'll cause the least confusion for the beginners in my group, I guess.
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How about G add D?
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How about G add D?
You know what? That's simple, economical, unambiguous, and surprisingly descriptive for beginners to understand. Jelly, I think you've won this contest.

For the chord that has no name... GaddD works for me. YMMV
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You know what? That's simple, economical, unambiguous, and surprisingly descriptive for beginners to understand. Jelly, I think you've won this contest.

For the chord that has no name... GaddD works for me. YMMV
I think I could probably guess it means that chord shape, but it would be confusing at first. "Is it a typo? I mean, G already has a D in it..."
Maybe "GaddanotherD"
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