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I know someone who had two pits, both raised from pups. One was the most loving gentle animal I have ever known. The other was not, and eventually had to be put down. Its not just the training or owner that is the problem, its temperament. That comes from breeding - having aggressive parents. People want to ignore that, but its true of most animals, and maybe humans too.
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Call a cop, then sue ... really. A pet owner is RESPONSIBLE to maintain control over the animal at ALL times. Walking a pit bull off the leash is about as irresponsible as it gets.
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I used to have a pit bull; she passed two years ago at age 11. In those 11 years, she never bit a soul. She rarely ever barked or growled, come to think of it. She was one of the most loving creatures I've ever known. I didn't get her to intimidate anyone. I got her because she was a wonderful companion. I never worried about her biting me or anyone else. Hell, Labrador Retrievers are responsible for a much higher percentage of dog bites that pit bulls. Last edited by Acousticado; 08-11-2019 at 02:19 PM. Reason: Removed inappropriate references from quote and post |
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According to the Chicago Injury Center, pit bulls are responsible for roughly 8.4% of all dog bites. Labrador retrievers are responsible for 13.3% of all dog bites. The CIC is staffed with lawyers who sue for people who've been bitten, so I have to believe they've got their ducks in a row when it come down to the numbers on this. Additionally, chihuahuas are noted as being one of the nastiest breeds out there. They actually bite far more often then Labs, but those bites go unreported because the injuries don't warrant treatment as often as the injuries sustained from a Lab bite. If you want a breed with exactly zero value, get a chihuahua Yes, pit bulls are strong. They're also loving animals which, when raised correctly, provide wonderful companionship. Those who dismiss how a dog is raised, I would submit have never had a single encounter with a pit bull. Last edited by Kerbie; 08-11-2019 at 02:59 PM. Reason: Removed inappropriate commentary |
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Animals like dogs have different temperaments, but beyond that, they can have bad days or be in a bad mood. When a Lab is in a bad mood, sure they can bite... maybe more often than pit bulls. But the chance of being mauled by a Lab is very small. When a pit bull is in a bad mood, when they lose it, they can maul someone. It's like having a tiger or chimp as a pet. They can be nice to their for owner for years, get in a bad mood one day, and kill their owner. It happens all the time. Not only that, pit bulls might not bite people as often as other breeds, but they definitely go after animals more frequently than other breeds. Yours was nice, so I get trying to defend them. I think a lot of people would if they had your experience. But, in general, they are ticking time bombs. Your dog never went off, which is great and I'm glad you liked her.
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I think we can both offer sympathy for the grieving but still call out offensive content. There are a LOT of things we would and should never say around here (or anywhere for that matter, but here they're specifically against the rules) that just because we're grieving a loss wouldn't suddenly be OK to say. I tried to do both in my responses above.
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Ok, mods have spent too much time cleaning up this thread. Inappropriate comments in a number of posts, including the OPs, have been cleaned-up without taking away from what should be the primary sentiment. Get back to being civil.
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this is IMO what needs done- 1- cat needs a vet ASAP, 2- dogs need put down-period, 3-- owner should be fined
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Like others here, I'm sorry to hear the OP's pet has been injured, and I wish the best for them...
That being said, I'm the owner of a 3 year old female Pit Bull I rescued a year ago from a neglectful and abusive owner...she's the most kind hearted, loving dog I've ever owned, and my family including my young grandkids love her and trust her unconditionally... It saddens me that irresponsible breeders and owners have used these dogs to further their own inhumane agendas, whether for profit or intimidation...any large breed of dog can be trained or conditioned to behave in an unsafe, dangerous manner and then the media fans the flames...in the 70's it was German Shepherds, Dobermans in the 80's, Rottweilers in the 90's and now it's the American Pit Bull Terrier, a breed that's been around since the late 1800's... Since I've owned my dog, Cleopatra, I've met a number of owners who all share my experience with these dogs, and can honestly say I have yet to came into contact with a dog I haven't been comfortable around...
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Pit bulls kill. Too many of them were not raised correctly, and/or trained to fight. A sad thing that I personally label under "animal cruelty by humans". That's why they are much more regulated than other breeds. If they weren't, those statistics you enumerated would need revision, I suspect. It's not fiction that many people get pit bulls for all the wrong reasons. Not everyone, but too many. If a person owns a pit bull, and is responsible, caring and smart, they don't go around town walking with the thing unleashed, and preen around intimidating others. If a person owns a pit bull, and is a moron, or worse, they do go around town walking with the thing unleashed, and, I guess, they get a kick out of scaring people and animals. A neighbor who walks around any suburban area with a pit bull, unleashed, is exhibiting criminal behavior. It's not the dog's fault they were bred that way. The cuddly ones are the exception and not the rule. And no thanks. I've never cared for chihuahuas either as a breed, but I do love dogs and have owned my share.
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Thank you all for your responses. Safe to say we all wish this had not happened, we hope the best for the cat that was injured, hope that appropriate actions are taken for wrong doing by the neighbor's dog, but this thread has run its course. Again, thank you all for your opinions and concerns.
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