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Any Observations On Shadow SH 141 Soundhole Mag?
I’m looking for a magnetic pickup which A) Doesn’t talk back to me when I strike it with a pic or fingernail, and B) doesn’t have pole pieces to tear up my fingernails with (like the DiMarzio Black Angel which I just sold.) I’m thinking that the Shadow SH-141 might fit that bill, and I’ve noticed that it will be on sale soon. That’s why I’m hoping to get some user feedback.
With regard to soundhole pickups which respond poorly to being struck, I recently purchased a Mojotone NC-Passive soundhole pickup. It’s truly a great sounding pickup, but the darn thing clicks loudly when struck with a pic or fingernail. (It’s apparently similar to the Baggs M80 in that it’s as much of a soundboard sensor as a string sensor. I verified this by removing it from the guitar, plugging it into my SoloAmp and tapping on it with the gain cranked a bit.) I don’t want to change my playing style to accommodate a pickup, and I don’t want to turn down the treble so much (to soften the clicking) that it’s no longer a great sounding pickup. The NC-Passive will be a great pickup for some players, but not for me. |
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It’s nothing special having owned one previously, it won’t click when you hit it though! It’s just a typical Mag pickup.
I’ve also had the black angel and much preferred it to the Shadow.
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I have no experience with the Shadow, but I do not recall any clicking problems
with the Schertler AG-6. The AG6/s-mic combo is pretty nice. I mostly use the Sunrise now and have had no issues with the pole pieces. But i did not have problems with the pole pieces on the Black Angel or BlackStack either. ...and I am pretty heavy handed with my finger picking. The Rare Earth Blend may work, also, but I like the Scherler sound better. I like you, quit using the Baggs and MojoTone because of the click. Good Luck. |
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I just never got past what David Wilcox calls that “plunky” sound with the Black Angel. If I’d been using something like the Session DI, or a Sarno Steel Guitar Black Box tube preamplifier, I suspect the high end sound would have been more to my liking. Here’s a gig recording where I’m periodically plucking hard on the high ‘e’ and just not getting the high-end sound that I’m trying for. You can also see how I manage to beat up my fingernails as they lose “territorial disputes” with the Black Angel’s pole pieces. https://youtu.be/ye_EoYmdiU8 |
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The only soundhole pickups that have clicked at me when directly struck with a pic or fingernail have been the Baggs M1, the MojoTone NC-Passive and the Mi-Si Magpie Air (only when the onboard mic is turned on). I tend to play over the neck side of the sound hole. (See the gig video in the previous post.) With the Black Angel my nails were getting beat up when picking bare-fingered AND when strumming and picking with a flatpick. Go figure. It’s quite possible that your nails are a lot stronger than mine. |
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https://youtu.be/-PETfPiNo7o
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In any event, I’m hoping that there’s some way to process a more conventional soundhole pickup to get a rounder and more pleasing high end. I have plenty of better sounding pickups, but a Baggs LB6 is the only one of them that’s especially useful for bare-fingered picking in a loud setting. On the subject of the LB6, that’s another reason that I’m contemplating a Session DI. |
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Recently bought it
I recently bought it. Was in Italy with my Dreadnought Guitar where I was asked to play a gig. I went to the local music store, small but good choice and got the SH 141. My intention was to find something affordable and easy to install. Did not have big expectations in a magnetic pickup.
It sounds surprisingly well, accoustically, naturally. Played on a small PA system it has a good attack, strong bass and vivid treble. It sounded "expensive". I mainly used it for strumming, I cannot tell how it sounds with finger picking, but I guess not too bad. I would especially recommend it in a band setting. |
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Thanks for the suggestion, Joe. I appreciate the intention, but don’t think that would work in my specific case. I’m pretty much all over the neck side two-thirds of the soundhole. I can see how a finger stylist who anchors at the bridge would have no problem with the Mojotone pickups, but I’d rather not alter my strumming style or free-floating fingerstyle to accommodate a pickup.
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Here’s one for you to consider, Gary - a Krivo humbucker. Super-slim - you could easily mount this on the top between the soundhole and the bridge, and never hit it at all.
https://www.krivopickups.com/store/p..._Guitars..html
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PS, I checked out the website, David, and found two things that bother me somewhat. 1) I couldn't find the actual thickness of the pickup, and 2) none of the many users presented showed the pickup installed close to the bridge. It would be a fairly pricey experiment to see if that position yields a pleasing mag tone. I've currently gone back to experimenting with a California Lace, a magnetic pickup which I've used in the past in a dual setup with an internal mic. It has a pretty slim profile and doesn't get in My way too much. I'll likely end up installing it in my D28 (to compliment the iBeam) if the MiSi Magpie in that guitar loses its ability to hold a charge. I'll probably just sell the Shadow pickup (which I've also been experimenting with) as I don't like it any more than the Lace and it requires more EQ. Last edited by guitaniac; 06-07-2023 at 10:08 AM. |