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Old 09-09-2018, 05:18 PM
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4/4 timing? I read where reels are 6/8 and jigs are 4/4. I have it in GuitarPro and it doesn't sound exactly the way I want though in the playback.

I've written something, not sure if it even qualifies for the "jig" label. Has anyone ever tried this?
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If you listen to a lot of Irish music, you'll hear that it is seldom played in steady time. The last note of each sequence is often "shortened" relative to the following note. Its almost like a Shuffle rhythm.

When you play Irish reels and jigs as usually written, they just don't have the sound most people associate with the music. Those little shuffle notes put the real character back into it.
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Jigs are 6/8. Reels are 4/4. Slip jigs are 9/8. Slides are 12/8.

Accents for jigs are on the 1 and 4.

Hope that helps.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:38 PM
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Jigs are 6/8. Reels are 4/4. Slip jigs are 9/8. Slides are 12/8.

Accents for jigs are on the 1 and 4.

Hope that helps.
Oops. Ok, maybe that's why the playback in GP is off. Thanks.
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Irish/Scotish Traditional music doesn't lend itself to real strict written forms. It was taught by ear by the person considered be THE seasoned player of which ever instrument you wanted to learn- fiddle, whistle etc. Only relatively recently did it get written down. Recently being perhaps 100 years ago.

When you hear more contempoary jigs, reels etc. you can bet they are played differently than written.

Guitar is a newcomer to Trad.

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Irish/Scotish Traditional music doesn't lend itself to real strict written forms. It was taught by ear by the person considered be THE seasoned player of which ever instrument you wanted to learn- fiddle, whistle etc. Only relatively recently did it get written down. Recently being perhaps 100 years ago.

When you hear more contempoary jigs, reels etc. you can bet they are played differently than written.

Guitar is a newcomer to Trad.

If you really want to get a feel for it go to: www.oaim.ie
Ok thanks. I started re-writing it in 6/8 but the play back was the same so I'll leave it at 4/4. It's just for my reference anyway.
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4/4 timing? I read where reels are 6/8 and jigs are 4/4. I have it in GuitarPro and it doesn't sound exactly the way I want though in the playback.

I've written something, not sure if it even qualifies for the "jig" label. Has anyone ever tried this?
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It's all to do with how you subdivide, or count, the beats.

A jig, 6/8, has two beats and each beat is divided into three. You would count "diddle dee diddle dee" for each bar, two counts of three.

A reel is in 4/4 time and has four beats divided into two. You would count "diddle diddle diddle diddle" for each bar.

Technically speaking music that has beats that are divided into three is said to be in 'Compound Time' and music that has beats that are divided into two are said to be in 'Simple Time'.

If you are seriously short of stuff to do check out this page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duple_and_quadruple_metre

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