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I think that, regardless of what size larger Dazzo would be used to impart more bass which it would, the tape takes away the upfront, transparency that the more intimate and hard epoxy renders to the amplified tone. I feel with the tape, you're trying to climb back out of a hole and will likely never get to the tone you want to hear. This is why I'm compelled to use the Loctite 6-Minute Epoxy Gel for my upcoming Trance M-VT Phantom installation as I feel the amplified tone suffers significantly from the recommended "permanent tape" installation.
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The Larrivee C-03 TE Tommy Emmanuel Custom is actually a Larrivee LV Series guitar but a 1/4 inch thinner from front-to-back. Its tone is almost dreadnought-like so it should work pretty well with either a Trance or a Dazzo system.
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No, the Trance Amulet M-VT Phantom ($369) is available directly from Trance Audio or our AGF sponsor, Maury's Music: http://www.tranceaudio.com/amuletmphantom.html
The 1/4" Canare Instrument Cable is optional.
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But as I've said, the whole thing reminds me of the installs I've watched Teddy do where he's moving the pickup around while listening. That sound almost like a wah-wah pedal. You're not changing the position of the Trance, just the pressure point, so it's a little different, but you hear the volume and low end come in as you locate the right spot. Since using this approach, my Trance installs seem to sound right the first time, compared to other approaches where I was needing to do 3 and 4 installs to get the sound dialed in.
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No problem! All four Larrivee dreadnought models mentioned in the course of my comments are still available per the Larrivee website, along with the Tommy Emmanuel. Another model I mentioned in an earlier comment, the 2013 Larrivee D-04 (Spruce Tree model) dreadnought, the top of which was made from a 300-year-old Sitka Spruce, is discontinued.
https://www.larrivee.com/products/d-40-legacy-series https://www.larrivee.com/products/d-40r-legacy-series https://www.larrivee.com/products/sd-40-legacy-series https://www.larrivee.com/products/c-03r-te
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The Larrivee D-40M with Dazzo #70 passive system sounds really good through my Steel Guitar Black Box Tube Preamp with its Vari-Z input impedance set fully to 1 MegaOhm. There are no EQ controls on the Black Box and the LR Baggs Synapse PA's tone controls are set to FLAT EQ. I was a bit concerned that the 1 MegaOhm maximum input impedance available on the Black Box might short-change the tone from the Dazzo system compared to the 10 MegaOhm input impedance on the LR Baggs Session DI but quite I'm pleased with the tone of the Black Box/Dazzo combination!
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Teddy told me of a shop that insisted using tape, and then were unhappy with the pickups. This is akin to buying a car with a high performance motor slated to use premium, then using regular and saying it didn't run good.
When you buy a product and don't follow the manufacturer's instructions, don't expect the product to perform as it should. I've read forum posts of people stating they used every kind of tape they could find, and Dazzos don't sound very good. This is ludicrous.
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I have stated about a couple dozen times I live close to Teddy. How does this pertain to the discussion? Do you go to the K&K factory to get K&Ks glued in? Or do the thousands of dealers just follow the instructions. It's not rocket science.If you don't like glue, don't buy Dazzos.
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Cuki, should you buy a Dazzo set, and find your first locations don't sound as good as you hoped they would have, Teddy says just pry them off with a razor blade (look at the first part of his installation video) and clean everything with acetone before doing another installation. I think Dazzos are kind of like K&K pickups in that the positioning isn't quite as critical as we may think it is.
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I still have a Trance audio amulet and I am tempted by the a Baggs anthem too... Did you take a picture of your install?
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