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Old 02-12-2019, 11:42 AM
jpmist jpmist is offline
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I love 5 year old threads . . .

Reading the experiences of guys who love their tuners and guys who hate theirs, I've fallen into the hate them camp.

It really wasn't until I put Gotoh 510s on my other guitars did I notice how I dreaded tuning my 322 because it seemed a lot of work. Turning a 1/4 turn I'd expect the string note to change and it often didn't. I went so far as to remove all of them and slightly lube the headstock hole the tuner shaft fit in with no change.

I looked into several options for replacement and am offering them here for those who clicked on a dead thread.

Waverly - it took a bit of googling to discover that Waverly is owned by Stew-Mac and are manufactured in the US. I'll be honest to admitting a large bit of bias against Stew-Mac's high pricing so while they may be excellent I passed.
https://www.stewmac.com/Waverly/Wave..._Pegheads.html

Gotoh - I really wanted to buy their slothead tuners, but I find they're 15:1, less than the Waverly 16:1 and much less than the 510's I have that are 18:1. They have a wide variety of finishes and tuner buttons, but nothing close to the 322 antique brass/copper shade. They carry 3 versions which are identical except for the screw hole spacing, the SEP-700 should drop in for the 322.
They're 1/3rd (!!!) the cost of Stew-Mac, but they have to be ordered directly from either the factory or from another supplier JAPARTs. In either case expect a big hike in shipping cost and a long wait.
http://www.japarts.ca/Gotoh/Gotoh-Pr...sp?Body=SEP700
https://g-gotoh.com/international/product/sep700.html

Grover - I tried a set of these 6 years ago on a Recording King with awful factory tuners. I inadvertently did myself a favor and dropped the guitar which broke one of the plastic buttons off. These are 18:1 and I have no recollection of how I liked them, so they must have been ok. I'd have bought these again but the blindingly chrome and gold finishes looks a tad gaudy compared to the one's on the Taylor so I wanted to keep looking.
https://www.grotro.com/Grover/VINTAG...o-97-18-Series

Schaller - A similar variety in finishes and buttons, and these are 18:1 so this is what I pulled the trigger on. The screw spacing is the same as on my Taylor 322 and they have a Vintage Copper finish which should be close to the ones on there now. Again, these have to be ordered direct and it appears to be a retail price with steep additional shipping from Germany.
https://schaller.info/en/machine-hea...ne-single?c=53

Fortunately eBay has a seller in France that offered the copper finish at a price less than ordering from the factory. It's probably a good idea to shop Amazon, eBay and Reverb before buying from the manufacturer as you might get as lucky as I did.

Still waiting on them, will report back when they're on.
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:16 PM
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Gotoh -
They're 1/3rd (!!!) the cost of Stew-Mac, but they have to be ordered directly from either the factory or from another supplier JAPARTs
You can buy Gotoh tuners here:

https://www.philadelphialuthiertools.com/

Mine took about three days to deliver.
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