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Old 01-13-2024, 06:16 PM
DDW DDW is offline
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Default Decoding serial numbers on Blackbird guitars?

Anyone have the secret key ring? I'd like to be able to determine the build dates. Specifically Blackbird Riders, but I imagine they would use the same scheme for all their lines. For example, what does 29030710NE mean?

I've tried Blackbird, but they are not responding to email at the moment.
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Old 01-14-2024, 09:26 AM
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My only Blackbird guitar, a Lucky 13 that was built in 2016, had "2016" as part of the serial number. I cannot decode yours. Perhaps they used a different system back when the Rider was in production? You'll probably have to wait until Joe can respond. He is busy rebuilding a burned factory, as you know. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:50 AM
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Anyone have the secret key ring? I'd like to be able to determine the build dates. Specifically Blackbird Riders, but I imagine they would use the same scheme for all their lines. For example, what does 29030710NE mean?

I've tried Blackbird, but they are not responding to email at the moment.
Not sure if this helps buy my Blackbird Steel String Rider serial #3110810SE is a 2010 build.

Mitch
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Old 01-15-2024, 11:42 AM
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Perhaps if I got enough serial numbers with known build dates, it could be reverse engineered. The ones I've found so far don't have an explicit year. For example 4850611NE and 7550512NE. The N clearly means Nylon (and S Steel), perhaps the E is a Rider? or Electric? Possibly the last 2 digits are year, maybe the two before that is month? And the first three the serial number? That seems to fit the data so far. I misstated the one in the OP, it is 2930710NE. So your steel one was built a month later and is 18 guitars (311 - 293) later? And in that scheme the later serial numbers also have later build dates?

Anyone else have a serial number and a build date to contribute?
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Old 01-21-2024, 04:09 PM
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I think the E means Electric, i.e., with pickups. And I'm pretty sure the last four digits are month and year. And the ones before that are serial number, later ones have 4 digits there, earlier only 3.

I'm learning this by buying them . I noticed one for sale at Elderly but it isn't there anymore....
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