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Old 10-08-2020, 02:32 PM
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Default Loose Strap End Pin

I bought a new guitar. The wood end pin is very loose. I don't want to glue it. Are there any less permanent solutions where the pin can be taken out without heat. The guitar is a Martin J65M. Love it otherwixe.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:39 PM
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Seems to me you ought to return it. That can be dangerous, especially if you're using a strap. I have a Recording King guitar that has the same problem.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:59 PM
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Swab CA glue around the inside of the pin-hole - don’t insert the pin, leave it overnight for the glue to dry hard. In the morning, check the fit of the pin. If it’s still loose, repeat the CA swabbing/drying exercise as necessary, check the fit again. When the pin fits snug, you’re done.

Take great care not to get CA on the finish. When you insert the pin, push it home with a twisting motion.

If you don’t trust yourself with CA, a wood glue e.g. Titebond , also works but it doesn’t dry as hard as CA.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:08 PM
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The suggesting of tring to reduce the hole is a good one, but I might also suggest you get a larger endpin. They come in different diameters.

Or get one of these: https://www.taylorguitars.com/taylor...uttons/end-pin

Larrivee, Furch and others use them. Stew Mac makes soemthing called a NoJak, but these are better and easier to install. They will fill up to 1/2" holes left from mounting a jack at the endpin. 100% a safe solution to your problem.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:12 PM
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In the "old days" we'd simply tear off a piece of newspaper , wrap it around the pin shaft to form a sheath, and push it in ... hard.

Can't remember it not working, but no guarantees.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:20 PM
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End pins are normally NOT glued in the guitar.
It is always a good idea to remove the end pin if you ship your guitar anywhere to prevent damage caused by a hard blow to the guitar case and the end pin.

With that said, some guitar makers ship their guitars with the end pin not in the guitar. You install the pin when you receive your new guitar.

Usually it only requires you to push the pin into the hole on the guitar with a twisting action.
That should be enough for the pin to stay in place.

If your pin is so loose that it won't stay in, you may want to contact the guitar manufacturer and get their recommendation.

DON"T glue the end pin to the guitar.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:25 PM
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Here's a simple solution
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:36 PM
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You can enlarge the pin by swabbing CA on the pin. Let dry, then sand or scrape the pin to fit.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:45 PM
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Here's a simple solution
That seems really aggressive. You can almost see the tail block deflect the back and top as he’s pushing so hard.

If the end pin is loose, it usually is so by a few thousandths. I’ve used the CA glue mentioned several times. Whether you build up the hole or the pin, both work well. If you really need actual security, then go with a real locking end pin. I like the Schaller locks screwed into a wood dowel or I’ll use a bolt and nut with the Dunlop.

https://www.amazon.com/Schaller-Lock.../dp/B07F7DSBYW

https://www.amazon.com/Dunlop-SLS140...ruments&sr=1-4
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:57 PM
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Like L20A said, end pins are not always glued in. Frequently just a friction fit.

Martin does it that way.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:45 PM
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What John said works well .. nothing invasive to your guitar - just making a cheap pin do the job.
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