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Old 11-09-2019, 07:37 AM
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Fishman says the batteries last a few weeks which is definitely a downer. I like mine well enough that I plan to do an install on my harp guitar and take batteries out when going a long time without using the pickup. The sound and form factor are worth the battery inconvenience to me. Iíll just keep a cheap multitool in the case....
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:58 AM
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Default Schertler AG6 vs Fishman Rare Earth Blend vs Skysonic Pro1

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Is it worth getting the mic for only live play? since it's barely used (10%)

I think so. It is an omni mic, and somehow it seems to be mostly immune from physical sound coupling. This is something I havenít seen discussed yet.

Hereís the thing: a mic mounted in a guitar picks up sound two ways: through the air, and through physical coupling where the mic acts like a body sensor. I had a Skysonic FS-1 pickup (their wireless mag/mic pickup), and most of the mic sound was through physical coupling rather than through the air. It made the guitar really sensitive to body rustling sounds more than ďmic airĒ. The Schertler mic is well isolated. You donít pick up nearly as much clothing squeaks and bumps and yet if you snap your fingers over the soundhole you hear it quite clearly, even at 10%.

The omni mic is a big deal to me. Yes it is more sensitive to feedback than the cardioid mic in the Fishman Rare Earth Blend. It is also less boxy. That is why the REB mic is on a little gooseneck. It is directional so you need to be able to point it. The Schertler S-mic is on a fixed arm because it is omni and doesnít need to be aimed.

The string to string balance is superb on the Schertler AG-6. Unlike other pickups, it actually has six separate magnetic pickups (one for each string). Each of these goes through itís own individual class A preamp. Then there is a seventh class A preamp for the mic. I do a lot of intricate stuff with basslines, chording, chording, and melody on top. String to string balance is really important to me. When I had a LR Baggs M80, no matter how much I adjusted the pole pieces, I never could get it right. With the Schertler AG-6, there are no adjustments, but the balance between strings is perfect.

I have Schertler AG-6 pickups mounted in three guitars. I like them that much! I regularly have people come up to me at gigs and tell me it is the best amplified acoustic sound they have ever heard.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:50 AM
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I've had the reb and the
Skysonic. Thought the skysonic
Was a toy. Cheap and poor sounding.
The REB was much better. I now use a baggs m80. But no mic.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:42 PM
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The AG6 seems like a really cool pickup but the major downside is the price. The magnetic pickup and mic here in Canada are close to $600.00. Personally, the AG6 on its own sounds like any other magnetic pickup so $400 for just it is a bit much. The mic sounds amazing but at 10% for live use, I question how much better it really makes everything sound. Again, it sounds like an awesome option and not trying to knock it, just wish it was a bit more realistic to get.
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Old 11-10-2019, 08:40 AM
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Default Schertler AG6 vs Fishman Rare Earth Blend vs Skysonic Pro1

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The AG6 seems like a really cool pickup but the major downside is the price. The magnetic pickup and mic here in Canada are close to $600.00. Personally, the AG6 on its own sounds like any other magnetic pickup so $400 for just it is a bit much. The mic sounds amazing but at 10% for live use, I question how much better it really makes everything sound. Again, it sounds like an awesome option and not trying to knock it, just wish it was a bit more realistic to get.

Wow, that is a lot more than it costs here! The pickup is about $250, plus another $100 for the mic. One way to look at it is that this is the only pickup that actually has a separate pickup and class A preamp for each string and another class A preamp for the mic. Thatís only $50 per class A pre-amp!

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Default Schertler AG6 vs Fishman Rare Earth Blend vs Skysonic Pro1

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Thanks for the comparison Ippier.

So your review means the Fishman wins over the Schertler also in the "pickup only" category (no mic engaged?). The two high strings are balanced in both? Do you have any comment on battery duration?


Sorry I just saw this post... I donít have the schertler so I have no basis for comparison. I was comparing between reb and magmic. Battery wise I never measured - both feel like they last pretty Long to me.
I donít find anything unbalanced about the Reb all the way to the magnetic pickup - itís meant to be voiced to sound acoustic, maybe thatís what youíre hearing?

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