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Any Solution to No Jack.??
I'm not ready to buy a new amp but I am looking forward to my first $500 amp in the coming months.
I have a Fender Champion 20. I love it. I often play through headphones but I'm noticing a lot of amps don't have a headphone jack. Am I correct to assume an output jack can be used for headphones.?? At this point I have 3 amps on my radar. Fender Blues Junior, Fender Super Champ x2 and a Bugera 22v Infinium. I don't think any of the 3 have either a headphone jack or an output jack. What's up with that.?? Listening with headphones is my preferred method when using the loop pedal. And I can play when others are in the house. I don't think I could buy an amp without a jack. Any solution to this.?? If not, throw me some links to amps that do have an output or a headphone jack. I don't understand......
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I have a Fender Acoustasonic amp, pretty small but its got a lot of power and has good sound. Also it does have a headphone/output jack.
https://youtu.be/djF54Ol3FK4 It is possible to take apart an amplifier and add a headphone jack, however that would be a lot of work... |
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The Fender Bassbreaker 007 has the line output jack. It’s a hot rodded 7 watt tube amp with 10” Celestion speaker.
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amps like the ones you're heading to purchase don't have head phone jacks.
I think its more intended to be a practice amp kind of feature. |
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Line level outputs typically have a source impedance of 50 to a few hundred ohms. They are intended to drive loads that have a high input impedance, usually greater than 5k ohms. They are typically optimized for very low noise and low distortion when used with high impedance loads. Headphone outputs typically have a source impedance less than a hundred ohms and the better ones have a source impedance of a few ohms or less. They are intended to drive the lower impedances presented by headphones which typically range from 16 ohms to 300 ohms. They are optimized for being able to drive higher current and for delivering reasonable distortion and noise with low impedance loads. Line level outputs usually do poorly when driving headphones because their higher source impedance will not properly damp the driver at low frequencies and they can suffer from high frequency rollof when loaded with significant capacitance. Headphone outputs can be used to drive line level loads and can provide good noise and distortion performance but are typically not as good as line level outputs. I know I made a lot of generalizations here and that there will always be exceptions, but these are just some rules of thumb. |
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My guess is you’ll find a headphone jack across the board on all the modern modelling amps.
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For the OP - It sounds like you want a small tube amp - they sound good but are pretty loud. You need to go another route to turn down real low or use headphones. I am not trying talk you out of a nice amp - go for it.
Try an amp sim pedal like a Joyo American Sound (35 bucks or so on Ebay) You can hook the output to a stereo, powered speakers or headphones for quiet inside practice when the tube amp would have too much "presence". That's what I do to stay in good graces with she who watches TV. |
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Yep, most/all solid state amps will have them. (Big reason why I own one). Won't come with any tube amp though.
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OP here... Okay. I now have a better understanding of amplifiers. Boy, I'd like to talk to that engineer. 287 effects onboard with a headphone jack. Reverb onboard, headphone jack, zilch, 19, nothing, nada, nope, shaking head no. No jack. Why not.?? And I didn't understand the long reply about ohms. That went in one ear and out the other. lol.
Okay then.... Um, let me pose the question this way. Name me some great sounding amps in the "apartment" category. With or without a jack. Gee, my $130 Fender amp is looking pretty good to me right now. wink.
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There are a few lower power tube/transistor hybrid amps that do allow silent practice using headphones. Check out the Blackstar HT-1R MkII combo. That does have a headphone output though I'm not sure how well it works. Sounds like a nice amp though and 1 watt is all you need for quiet playing.
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Line level outputs usually do poorly when driving headphones |
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Maybe I missed something, but unless your budget is super tight, you can always buy any number of different headphone amps. I think they start around $35 and go up from there. Far more portable of course than an amp by itself so there are some advantages to that.... Good luck!
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