What is needed for online concerts?

[Doug Young]

Originally Posted by phcorrigan

If I understand, you're using eCamm internally, but streaming out to Zoom, YouTube, etc. Correct?

Thanks.

What I'm doing right now is using eCamm, period. It can stream to one location. The recommended way to use eCamm to multistream is to stream from it to restream.io, which lets you distribute to lots of places from there. (BTW, you can also use restream.io directly). See Aaron's shows for an example of eCamm+restream.io

What I had semi-working was using eCamm to stream to facebook, but send it's video signal to OBS, which can also stream to one location. OBS just see eCamm as a WebCam. But I failed to get this to work. I'll try again after the next OBS update comes out.

Zoom has not been involved. I use Zoom for meetings - lessons, workshops, things where everyone involved is needing to be seen and heard. For performances, it's less useful to me.

But you could do what Larry suggested if you're just wanting to ,multi-stream yourself, create a 1-person Zoom meeting, stream it to facebook and you tube.

For the kinds of multi-performer shows I've been doing, eCamm offers control that Zoom doesn't give me. I can switch between guests, mute everyone else while 1 person is playing and so on. There are a lot of options out there, which works best depends on what you want to do. Zoom is clearly best for meetings, and can be used for single or multi-person streaming shows as well.

BTW, if you're just wanting to stream yourself, I think (I haven't tried it), that there's nothing to keep you from going to facebook, starting a stream directly from your webcam, then going to you tube, and again creating a stream directly from your webcam - both at the same time. Of course, managing this would be confusing. What things like restream.io do for you is let you start and stop the show, bring in guests, if you want, and aggregate the comments into a single stream that you can see.


Larry, I looked up Alex. Yeah, you've got some heavy hitter tech help there....

From his "how to stream" video, that's a streaming setup!:

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[ljguitar]

Originally Posted by Doug Young

…Larry, I looked up Alex. Yeah, you've got some heavy hitter tech help there....

From his "how to stream" video, that's a streaming setup!:

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Hi Doug…
Yes - Alex frequently hosts major corporate worldwide events, so his large projects have large crews and massive budgets. And many of his team members are regular participants and attendees in the daily group.


The group Alex is running daily…
Over the past 8 months there have been many discussions, experiments, and iterations of what a basic minimum setup would be for decent streaming.

Their goal is to equip 'regular' people (not just computer specialists) to up their game, and understand not only gear, but how to adapt to online events.

• An average minimum gear setup recommended (and used) by the group members would be:
• Logitech C-920 or Brio ($100-200).
• Decent mic - $100 condenser or decent sounding headset mic (from $30)
• Capable digital to USB two channel interface or USB mixer - ($50-300)
• Inexpensive Ring light - ($50-100) OR Small/Med sized (NEEWER) light panels - 192 or 288 LED ($60-90)
• 6-7 foot solid background - Laselite 6'X7' - ($170) OR 5'X7' Amazon ($45-80)

It assumes people have a computer or laptop capable of doing the streaming. It presumes people have internet, and can do an Ethernet hookup for live streaming. It is expected to be used day or nighttime, hence lights (not just windows/sunlight).

If you assemble minimal gear (or own some of it already) you'd be investing $400-500 for a decent streaming setup. One could always skip lights, and mics, and backdrops, and stream with a handheld phone.

I'd think if one went that route, the ability to interest more than just their immediate family to such an event would be diminished.

I think online is going to be bigger than it was before the lock-down/shelter-in-place/no-live-event mandates were put into place for at least a full year. Even if in-person events occur (which most musicians prefer), there is an online audience which can be fostered and built.

I've followed your LIVE-online experiments for several years now, and enjoyed them.

[phcorrigan]

Originally Posted by ljguitar

We have a sound check 20 minutes before the main meeting and all the people with mics have to set their mic to a meter (which is onscreen).

Larry,

Do you have any details about how this is set up? I have attempted to do this using OBS and Zoom, with the OBS input being the audio meter's window. The issue I'm having is calibrating the meter.

If you, or the person who set this up, could share the information about your setup it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Patrick

[Doug Young]

Originally Posted by phcorrigan

Larry,

Do you have any details about how this is set up? I have attempted to do this using OBS and Zoom, with the OBS input being the audio meter's window. The issue I'm having is calibrating the meter.

If you, or the person who set this up, could share the information about your setup it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Patrick

I was recently able to use Loopback (program on the Mac) to direct audio to my DAW, where I can use any metering I have to measure any audio coming thru my system.

[JPH]

Haven't been on the forum for a while. Thank you everyone for all of the answers and suggestions.

[phcorrigan]

Originally Posted by Doug Young

I was recently able to use Loopback (program on the Mac) to direct audio to my DAW, where I can use any metering I have to measure any audio coming thru my system.

Thanks, Doug.

I'm on Windows, and I use a virtual cable for routing, and so far it seems to work, but my issue is calibration. So far, however, it seems to be working reasonably well, and if people stay below the red line on my meter they tend not to distort. The hard part is getting people to understand that gain staging needs to be done at multiple levels.