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Pickups for new Martin D-28 Modern Deluxe with carbon fiber bridge plate
I played last night with the Lyric in the D-28 Modern Deluxe. It sounded good from my vantage point. It was relatively flat sounding through the PA when located directly on the top nearer to the sound hole. I did not use the preamp pedal I bought with because I didn’t think it was needed after sounds check.
I guess the best compliment I could offer the Lyric is that I forgot I was playing amplified. I hardly noticed it. Some of my musician friends were there. They didn’t mention the guitar tone, but they liked the music. The audience evidently like it too. So, while I didn’t get any direct feedback on the setup, I guess my mission was accomplished. Either that or it sounded terrible and I have nice friends. ;-)
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Lol. Not sure. As soon as I have a bad gig? I only tested it in listening room environment. Who knows how it will work in a loud pub?
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Posting an update. I tried the Lyric directly connected to the top near the X brace crossing. The Lyric did not sound good adhered to the carbon fiber bridge plate. Evidently, it sounds best connected to wood. But, at higher volumes, without a preamp pedal, I was getting some weird resonances. Adhering directly to the top behind the bridge plate may also sound OK, but I didn't think to try that before I decided to pull it out and try the Schatten HFN Active VT system that I had on hand. I put the HFN directly on the carbon fiber bridge plate and below the saddle line. Frankly, I like the sound of the HFN better after initial testing. For those experimenting with Lyric on these new Martin models, I would try adhering the Lyric mic to wood in different locations. You may end up with a good result. But, if you are starting from scratch and haven't purchased a pickup yet, you might want to try Schatten HFN first. It gives a good result and seems largely indifferent to the carbon fiber bridge plate.
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Apparently July 18th!
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Watching this with great interest. Not because I have a modern Deluxe. I don't. But because I want to amplify my Martin Outlaw and remove the K&K PWM ...which to my ears sounds absolutely horrible. Muddy and dark. No matter how much I EQ it using a preamp. The only thing I haven't tried with it is the ToneDexter, but my pedalboard is nicely populated the way I like it. The tonedexter would be a complete revision I'm not sure I want to entertain.
So the Lyric was interesting .....since I am a Baggs Anthem fan. (Although I don't care for the Element VTC at all as a stand alone) The Shatten HFN, if different enough from the K&K would be least intrusive and interesting to try. Does it require an internal battery pouch inside the guitar?
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Even though it's more expensive, I suspect adding the ToneDexter would do more than changing the pickup. I have the K&K in my HD-28V, and I never plug it in without the ToneDexter.
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I can report that the passive K&K pure mini in the Modern Deluxe D-28 is a winner. The Schatten HFN wouldn’t adhere well to the bridge plate. I’m not sure if I got bad tape or there is another problem. The K&K sounds as good as any K&K installation I’ve had to date. The HFN (when adhered well) had a more lively sound. But, the K&K is bulletproof and passive, and I really like the lighter weight and more even/flat response. If I add a little reverb, it sounds like the HFN. Initial performances have been very promising. Hopefully, this means I’m done swapping pickups for a while.
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Did you use tape or glue to mount the K and K?
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I used super glue. A small amount. It sounded great.
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