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ummm.... I just don't know what else to say.
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As you can see in this thread, we have players who would play Csus2 when they see C2 and we have players who would play Cadd9 when they see C2.
I've even seen individuals switch between the two interpretations in the same song. D2 will be a Dsus2, but C2 will be Cadd9. The notation is ambiguous, which has been my main point. I think you should take a page from my book and say that folks should stop using this C2 notation. If they mean Csus2, write Csus2. If they mean Cadd9, write Cadd9. It is obviously a source of confusion for players, so why have ambiguous notation? We already have notation for the chords that they intend. As I said in my original post, it is just my pet peeve and most folks don't care. Bryan |
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WHAT A CHORD!!!!!!!!
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I always wondered what was up with that. I am with you, call it what it is... for people trying to figure this all out, you would think a sus2 and 2 are two different chords.
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I play with lots of different musicians, and I keep the pressure on me to understand what ''language'' they speak and adapt to them, rather than to educate them to tickle-my-ears by using the terms I think are more correct. In the middle of a jam with some players who read, some who don't, some jazzers and some grassers, I just listen for their usage and definitions, and watch their hands and then play along and have fun. It is not important to me at all - nor is it an issue worth going to the matte for - to get everyone to define their terms the same. I know what they mean if they say A2, Asus2, A9, A9-add7 or Aadd9 - as soon as I ask them to show it to me. Then I'm good to go... |
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Larry,
That kind of misses the point of notation. If I could just have Bach show me how to play Invention #8, I would. I can't, so I do the best with the notational representation that he left us. The same goes for most sheet music and chord charts that I've worked through over the years. I rarely have access to the composer to know what they intend. I agree that if you do have access to the composer or are learning to play an arrangement the way someone else already plays it, then you are good to go. I do that, too. I also work a lot with musicians who don't know the names of the chords they are playing. As I said in my first post, this is a pet peeve of mine and most folks don't care. You're clearly in the 'don't care' group. Bryan |
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I am in the camp of those who don't care if everyone calls chords the same thing as long as we communicate and play music together. I don't see how not calling a Bb2 a Bb2sus, or Bbadd9 or Bb9add7 misses the point of notation. If notation is the real issue, just write out the notes and don't label it anything...and those who read will play the right notes in the proper inversion... However notation was not the intent of the thread...but how to play a Bb2 chord. |
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Wow, I left and came back and there's been a party going on!!
Is this true? Bb2 = Bb C D F maybe for piano?
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It is all in the thread. Bryan |
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The sus2 simply states no third in the chord. An "add 2" would have the third as well as the 2-but not the b7 or it would be a 9. Don't ya love it?
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Isn't this Steely Dan's infamous "mu major"?
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Hi James...
Sorry the party went on while you were 'away.' Yes, Bb, C, D, F bottom-to-top is a Bb2 chord. Bb9 would be spelled or played (bottom-to-top) Bb, D, F, C and it might even have an ''A'' or ''Ab'' in it as well between the F & C... |
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I'm not sure why Larry is suggesting that it might have an A note in it, as that is a different chord - Bbmaj9. I highly recommend Ted Greene's "Chord Chemistry" for folks who are interested in the conventions of chord naming and construction. I think I'll shut up now. Bryan |