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I've tested them through the local Opera House system, a huge, full-range flown speaker array with bass bins under the stage and a Neve desk. Thanks to volunteering and helping out lug set stuff around with the local youth theatre, I got an afternoon to play with three of my guitars and my preamps and DI's in any empty venue with the sound guy who does the orchestras, back in early 2020. It was fun being that loud and clean! When I kicked the Boss OC5 octave pedal on in polyphonic mode, it was insane! In that situation, the Sunrise was BY FAR the best-sounding pickup. Through the Bose L1 I use in small venues, it's not as dramatic a difference, but I still prefer it.
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Oh wow, I've honestly never seen one before. It looks like you'd not want a permanent install, but seems like it's no bother to get in and out. Tbh, sound would come over looks for me, and from what you've said I trust that it's a nice sounding magnetic
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I keep one of Dp139s and the Sunrise for when 'm up at my studio. And speaking of the studio, I've plugged my Sunrise into so many preamps up there that I can't count. I have Neve, BAE, Manley, Sebatron, Universal Audio, etc, and the Sunrise sounds good through all of them. When I used it live, I used it with my Grace Alix preamp (I didn't own the Felix yet, so I never dual sourced it). But neither the DP139 or the Sunrise sound as good as the SA6 in my Martin. As I said, I just think it's a good combination. I did two gigs with that guitar this last weekend, and I was just dumbstruck at how good it sounded. In my house I tested the combo with my Bose Pro 16, but at my gigs, the Martin was plugged into my Schertler JAM 200. I was most impressed by the tight low'end, and how much mic I could get into the mix, which before when I tried it in other guitars, it seemed to give me more feedback problems. I might have to add a soundboard transducer and see what that does, will the sickness never end When I was looking for the DP139 in the house to take a picture of it for you I couldn't believe how many acoustic pickups I had in my parts drawer. DiMarzio Angels, LR Baggs M1 and M80, Fishman Naturals and Infinity Matrix, K&Ks, Schertler DYN-G. As I said... a sickness!!! I keep them around just for fun, and every now and then I will try them in a new guitar. Funny thing, I was going to put a Trance Amulet system in the Martin, and was just using the SA6 to check for intonation on my Peterson Strobe tuner. I like checking the tuning and intonation with a pickup better then the built in mic as I feel it's easier to lock onto notes. When I was done, and satisfied with the tuning, I tried it through the Pro16, I'm sure glad I did! |
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I'm generally very averse to piezo quackery and dislike UST's.
I've tried several different options and landed on a Fishman Rare Earth Blend which is a sound hole magnetic pickup and an internal microphone which you blend into a built-in pre-amp with a thumbwheel. In my loud cover rock band I've never had any feedback issues and it sounds great. When I want more delicate acoustic nuances, I play quieter and increase the mic in the mix
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I picked up a Rare Earth Blend a little while back to try out. I think it sounds really good. Better than I expected. One thing I like about magnetic pickups is that they seem to get really good note separation. Add in a little of that mic for air and it is a nice sound. Probably better for fingerstyle than strumming - but I think strumming is where many pickups break down.
Additionally, the Rare Earth Blend seems to have minimal effect on the guitar's top (at least the Martin OM I tried it with). I had a Sunrise years ago. It was like attaching a brick to the top. |
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I recently picked up a K&K Double helix. It is one of the more natural sounding mags I’ve tried. It still has a bit of the mag-electric sound, but it sounds amazing as a sound support source when combined with a mic. The mic has the air and natural acoustic sound and the mag adds girth and low end.
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It’s actually part of a 3 source Frankenstein system. I have an older 3 channel onboard K&K preamp (no longer made) to which I connected a K&K mic, mag and a Schatten HFN SBT. As a solo source I was was never a fan of a Mag pickup, but I loath UST’s more. But since I had the pre-amp..... It was just installed in a D-35 and I’m still experimenting with the blend, but I find removing the low end from the mic and adding a bit of extra low end on the mag (and removing a bit of the high end) makes a nice combo...... without the SBD. For now, with more mic then mag it makes for a natural clear sound with a nice low end. No feed back issues yet, but I’m playing solo, so the volume stays moderate........I think a 2 channel preamp with the Double Helix mag and mic would sound great as long as you can adjust the eq for each source individually. Truth be told, I’m not sure if this is the guitar the 3 source system will stay in, 2 would work great. But having the 3 sources makes it a very versatile system, and I think it would be useful in many applications once I get to know the nuances of the 3 sources.
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I think Sunrise were and still are one of the best mag pickups ever made
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