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12 string capo options
I'm struggling with my G7th Newport 12 string capo and was wondering if anyone had any good experiences with other options to share. The G7 has the staggered bar but it just doesnt work well on my 12-string, which is a 94 Guild D4-12 with a big 1 13/16" neck (feels bigger but what do I know).
Issue is inconsistent pressure across the strings leading to tuning issues. Thanks for any insights. |
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I had the same issue with G7 staggered capo. Some folks have success with. It’s strange. I went with a Thalia Capo works really well with the extra dense pad the have for bari’s/12’s
https://www.thaliacapos.com/ |
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12 string capo options
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It is probable that the G7th Newport with the compensated string pad is simply not right for your guitar. You might want to contact the G7th company to see if they have anything else which might work. Maybe they have one which will work with your guitar. Or maybe offer a different size pad for replacement. They have excellent customer service. I have four twelve string guitars, each measuring 1+7/8" (1+14/16") in nut/neck width. 2 Taylors and 2 Guilds. That particular G7th capo with the 'saw- tooth' pad works fine on each one. Yours seems to have a slightly narrower nut/neck width. That capo will also not work on any 12 string guitar which does not have an 'octave first' string set-up, like a Rickenbacker. In truth, I do not like using a capo if I can avoid it. I also tune my 12 string guitars down a semi-tone to D#, hence the need for a capo when playing with others. I mostly only bring a six string to such occasions, as the more open strings you pick, the better the 12 string will sound, at least in my book. And I fingerpick all my guitars using my nails as picks. And sorry, but also why I do not have any recommendations for that neck width. Be well, play well, Don .
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The Paige 12 string capo works fine on my old Ovation 12 string.
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A Shubb 12-string capo works perfectly with my mid-90s Guild JF-30-12 (similar neck to the OP’s guitar, and mine is always tuned to standard pitch).
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Was going to recommend this. Comparatively cheap and perfect design with adjustable tension. Importantly it never gets in the way. I never use anything but Shubb capos.
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My Guild is set up octave first and I am often in open C or DADEAD.
I was looking at the Shubbs so good to hear that that might be a good choice. I received a very nice gift of a Thalia capo a few years back but find myself not using it because of of the sheer weight of it. I'm such a klutz that I have visions of accidentally dropping it through the top of a guitar. |
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The D'Addario Pro Plus works quite well, almost as well as the saw-toothed G7, requiring little retuning. It doesn't look like much, and costs a bit more, but I am satisfied with it on my 12-strings.
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Thanks! I'm going to try the Shubb. I really like the D'addario capos but didn't have much luck with the 12-string option.
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I second th D'Addario Pro plus. I use it for my 12 string guitars with nut widths from 1 11/16 to 2 inches and different fretboard radius.
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Tried several for 12 string, including the G7th. Always go back to Shubb. Just make sure you get one specifically for a 12 string.
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I use a Kyser on my 12-string.
I am a Shubb fan ... have one that I use on my 6-sting(s). Just haven't purchased a new Shubb capo for my 12-string.
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I no longer play a 12 string but when I did, I tried a lot of capos and never found one that was better than the Shubb 12 string capo.
The best thing that it has going for it is the ability to apply the needed tension without being difficult to use. Yes, the Shubb can cause your guitar to go out of tune but so do all other capos with the possible exception of the G7th with the compensated pad. My problem with the G7th capos was that two of them broke within 6 months of ownership. Also they were difficult to get the strings lined up with the pad.
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I have very inconsistent luck with that G7 "sawtooth" capo. When it works (which is not most of the time for me) it's great. Others (some here in this thread already) have different experiences with it, and I can't figure out what's odd about my 12-strings or what I might be doing wrong.
I capo my 12-strings a good deal of the time, and anywhere from the 1st fret to way up to above the 7th fret where I'm sometimes going for a faux mandolin sound. The Shubb works OK for me as long as I'm not capoing up far on the neck. With fatter necks, it can come "unclosed" and that's a real bummer. Yes, I need to retune a bit. Simple, not-pricey, durable. I have a G7 "Nashville" clamp style capo that is easy to use, though again a little retuning in necessary. I've tried the yoke style capos, but the wider 12-string necks seems to cause issues in some positions. Because the yoke style are a little fiddlier for me to put on and take off, I only like to use them on guitars where they can serve all my capoing needs. All summed up: the OP trying the Shubb 12-string model next is a good idea. They don't take any figuring out, they work as well as any, and they don't break or break the bank.
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This does show how particular 12 strings are for capos.
In my case I tried 5 or 6 total that were all designed as 12 string capos on my Emerald x30-12 and the Newport was the only one that worked reliably. The Daddario pro plus almost worked except the neck became too skinny towards the top for it to have enough tension. Anyway, might be another one for the OP to try. |