Acoustic vs Classical guitars

[charles Tauber]

Originally Posted by rick-slo

I'd say pull-offs, slides and hammers are more often used on flattop (steel string) guitars (at least for fingerstyle music) than you find used in classical guitar music.

What is the basis for your statement? Do you play the classical guitar?

[Joe Beamish]

Originally Posted by redir

...I'm mostly fond of Renascence lute music and Baroque guitar....

I like it too. I've been listening to a lot of Julian Bream the past couple months, and I'm pretty sure he's on a nylon string guitar when he's not playing an actual lute.

I'm beginning to wonder why I play a steel string guitar! I guess out of habit, and maybe because it's so versatile.

[frankmcr]

Originally Posted by DukeX

I agree with this. You can even flat pick a nylon string to great effect (IMO).

IWO, too:

[Bluemonk]

Originally Posted by rick-slo

I'd say pull-offs, slides and hammers are more often used on flattop (steel string)
guitars (at least for fingerstyle music) than you find used in classical guitar music.

Only because steel string guitars are more often used than nylon string guitars, at least in the U.S. Otherwise, I disagree with your statement.

[whvick]

Originally Posted by printer2

Nothing to add, just reminded me of a vid.



Now Youtube thinks I would be interested in more blues on a nylon. Sure, why not.

Is it just me or are there 7 strings on that first guitar. ?

[musicman1951]

For me it's mostly what you want to hear. I rarely play steel string music on my classical guitar, but I'm sure some songs would work well.

I'm not sure I've ever heard a classical pick up sound I've liked.

I don't recall ever thinking hammer-ons and pull-offs were easier on classical.

[redir]

Originally Posted by Joe Beamish

I like it too. I've been listening to a lot of Julian Bream the past couple months, and I'm pretty sure he's on a nylon string guitar when he's not playing an actual lute.

I'm beginning to wonder why I play a steel string guitar! I guess out of habit, and maybe because it's so versatile.

I've almost got this one nailed down though I play on the guitar tuned like a lute with a capo on the 3rd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x1tOvkMe90

[charles Tauber]

Originally Posted by redir

I've almost got this one nailed down though I play on the guitar tuned like a lute with a capo on the 3rd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x1tOvkMe90

Not that it matters much, but if you note her use of her right hand, she is playing what lutenists called "thumb-under" technique, which refers to the position of the thumb relative to the fingers of the right hand. That was standard technique for lute players.

Also, not that it matters much, but the lute Bream played was what is sometimes referred to as a lute-guitar or guitar-lute. It had fixed metal, rather than tied gut, frets and was braced with a fan brace like a classical guitar. He played it using classical guitar technique, rather than a more traditional lute technique. Still, sounded good.

Traditionally, lutes were VERY lightly built, unlike modern guitars, nylon or steel string. Most guitarists who pick up one of my lutes are amazed at how light lutes are.

[bufflehead]

Originally Posted by The Bard Rocks

I probably should point out that a classical guitar is an acoustic guitar. It's like a trout is a fish but not all fish are trout.

Back when I started out, the comparison would have been between classical and folk guitars, "folk" connoting any steel-string flattop acoustic guitar.

[Doug MacPherson]

I switched to nylon. Because of Willie.

[rick-slo]

Originally Posted by charles Tauber

What is the basis for your statement? Do you play the classical guitar?

I have a website and have posted dozens of pieces.

There are plenty of pull-offs and hammers used by both steel and nylon guitar players. Which would be more
predominant probably depends on what specific repertoire you are considering.

[printer2]

Originally Posted by whvick

Is it just me or are there 7 strings on that first guitar. ?

It is more visible on this one. I have no idea how it is tuned.



One of his responses,

"Thanks!
Enjoy your listening ! I have a lot of music over there more than 3000 my original pieces and hundreds of classical, folk, renaissance etc. pieces... my almost 50 years of music work..."

3000 pieces?

On the seventh drone string he said "normal bridge, 7th string is my own special setup"

At around 3:30 on it looks like there might be a tuner at the top of the headstock but it is hard to tell.

[boneuphtoner]

95% of what I play is classical music - flesh only - on steel strings. I love the shimmer and resonance that nylon string guitars just can’t match. Eventually I’m going to put out a post to connect with other players that are doing the same thing. I got started on the hand-me-down nylon (actually I think they were gut strings) and I’ve contemplated diving more into the world of classical guitars - I usually only go back a day or two. In addition to the tonal differences, nylons for me are far less forgiving with less than perfect fretting - many notes like middle C on the A string or the F on the D string will buzz annoyingly if you don’t get it perfect

[Joe Beamish]

Originally Posted by redir

I've almost got this one nailed down though I play on the guitar tuned like a lute with a capo on the 3rd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x1tOvkMe90

That's fabulous. And her tapering fingers look just like those of lady lutenists in the old paintings.

Is that a lute, just in a guitar shape? Sounds great.

[The Bard Rocks]

Originally Posted by bufflehead

Back when I started out, the comparison would have been between classical and folk guitars, "folk" connoting any steel-string flattop acoustic guitar.

Ditto for me. That nomenclature sure got away from us.