EQ Pedal with LR Baggs para acoustic DI

[Groberts]

I added a Baggs Align EQ to my pedal board that has a Red-Eye preamp and they work wonderfully tonight. So I see no reason you can't mate an Align EQ with the Para Acoustic DI.

[billyboy1962]

Originally Posted by Groberts

I added a Baggs Align EQ to my pedal board that has a Red-Eye preamp and they work wonderfully tonight. So I see no reason you can't mate an Align EQ with the Para Acoustic DI.

Thanks. Yeah, the Align looks great but I’ve bought a second hand Wampler EQ at a crazy price

[Uncle Pauhana]

Originally Posted by billyboy1962

Thanks. Yeah, the Align looks great but I’ve bought a second hand Wampler EQ at a crazy price

The Wampler Equator looks really interesting. Do the eq points work well for acoustic? The only videos I've seen demonstrate use with electrics only.

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[JWJ915]

The Wampler EQuator works very well with acoustic. I think it may be slightly easier to dial in than the Empress Para EQ.

[Uncle Pauhana]

Originally Posted by JWJ915

The Wampler EQuator works very well with acoustic. I think it may be slightly easier to dial in than the Empress Para EQ.

Thanks for your answer.

Another big plus for the Wampler over the Empress is that it has a volume control. I would be using the EQ in the effects loop of a Red-Eye. Neither the Empress or the Red-Eye has volume. The Empress/Red-Eye combo would be a lot of knobs at my feet to still need to go to the board for a simple volume change, so Wampler takes the lead!

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[billyboy1962]

Originally Posted by JWJ915

The Wampler EQuator works very well with acoustic. I think it may be slightly easier to dial in than the Empress Para EQ.

Yeah this is what attracted me to the Wampler. That and the fact it takes less space on my already groaning Pedatrain nano

[ljguitar]

Originally Posted by billyboy1962

…Does anyone have any experience of using a dedicated EQ alongside a DI unit like the para acoustic?

Hi bb1962

I've used ParaDI to get the part you describe as "…a dedicated EQ might help in smoothing out my sound, adding punch and clarity and giving me more control over my settings…"especially the punch and clarity parts. I still own a couple and they rarely come out of my gear bag these days.

The ParaDI sorely needed an update, and Baggs created the Venue. The ParaDI electronics/design goes back at least 15 years, and some of the edge or lack of smoothness is due to the need for an update (which the Baggs Venue is).

Baggs Venue added a notch in the bass range, the same two notches in the low-mid/high-mid range, and same presence and treble controls. It's a much friendlier and smoother sounding rig. And they finally located the XLR so it comes out parallel to the floor instead of sticking up in the air.

Modern PA systems, with digital boards (and their attached sound techs) often have the ability to fine tune any problem areas of the EQ of specific channels/instruments in the house mix.

A more price friendly EQ is the Fishman Platinum STAGE model. It only has sweepable mids, but there is a selectable low cut, and it's ½ the price of the Venue and fits in the pick drawer of my case. I carry it as a loaner for people who show up at gigs without a preamp (and didn't know they need one).

[billyboy1962]

Originally Posted by ljguitar

Hi bb1962

I've used ParaDI to get the part you describe as "…a dedicated EQ might help in smoothing out my sound, adding punch and clarity and giving me more control over my settings…"especially the punch and clarity parts. I still own a couple and they rarely come out of my gear bag these days.

The ParaDI sorely needed an update, and Baggs created the Venue. The ParaDI electronics/design goes back at least 15 years, and some of the edge or lack of smoothness is due to the need for an update (which the Baggs Venue is).

Baggs Venue added a notch in the bass range, the same two notches in the low-mid/high-mid range, and same presence and treble controls. It's a much friendlier and smoother sounding rig. And they finally located the XLR so it comes out parallel to the floor instead of sticking up in the air.

Modern PA systems, with digital boards (and their attached sound techs) often have the ability to fine tune any problem areas of the EQ of specific channels/instruments in the house mix.

A more price friendly EQ is the Fishman Platinum STAGE model. It only has sweepable mids, but there is a selectable low cut, and it's ½ the price of the Venue and fits in the pick drawer of my case. I carry it as a loaner for people who show up at gigs without a preamp (and didn't know they need one).

Hey Larry. Yep, I agree about the Para Acoustic and had considered upgrading to The Venue. My plan now is to use the Wampler Equator (which will be arriving next week) with my Radial Stagebug DI. The Stagebug is very straightforward but does sound good XLR’d into our PA. My thinking is that this will be a more simple and user friendly set up, with the Wampler governing EQ levels and the Stagebug delivering a clean signal. I’ll post something after my next gig

[varmonter]

I have tried a plethora of eq pedals in the past.
the para di was not one of my favs.
The grace felix mentioned above has
been my best buy ever . But it's expensive.
For a dedicated eq i have never found a better
one than the speck electronics asc. this is
a half rack unit so it helps if you have a rack
to mount it in. They are better known in the recording
world but i used one for years in a rack.
They are not cheap but can be found used
on ebay for a decent price. like this one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/speck-Elect...-/292818798478

Again if you know how to use a parametric eq. These
are great for guitar.

[ljguitar]

Originally Posted by billyboy1962

Hey Larry. Yep, I agree about the Para Acoustic and had considered upgrading to The Venue. My plan now is to use the Wampler Equator (which will be arriving next week) with my Radial Stagebug DI. The Stagebug is very straightforward but does sound good XLR’d into our PA. My thinking is that this will be a more simple and user friendly set up, with the Wampler governing EQ levels and the Stagebug delivering a clean signal. I’ll post something after my next gig

Hi bb

I look forward to your discoveries!

[varmonter]

Originally Posted by ljguitar

Hi bb

I look forward to your discoveries!

Me too let us know.

[billyboy1962]

The Wampler EQ is great and works well with the Radial Stagebug DI. My guitar sound at my last gig was improved with no feedback issues thanks to the Wampler ...However...I’ve also bought a second hand LR Baggs Venue DI at a price I couldn’t refuse. I’m going to road test the Venue at my next gig and don’t think I’ll need the Wampler in my chain as the Venue pretty much does it all. I can always use the Wampler on my electric pedalboard

I’ll post an update after I next play live

[Hurricane Ramon]

This is quite a unit .it as in the video can help an acoustic .





I own one . One unique feature is the 4 individual presets you make can be made to auto cycle

It's also able to enhance a bass guitar too .



EZ:

HR

[billyboy1962]

Just a quick update if anyone is still listening

The Venue works better for me in a live situation than the Wampler EQ / Stagebug combination. The Venue sounds great with all my electro-acoustics (the Expression 1 system sounds particularly improved) and is ergonomically brilliant

I’m in the recording studio next month and am hoping to use the Venue (although the engineer has his own preferences

Thanks again for the input / interest

[Uncle Pauhana]

Congrats on getting your live setup sorted out.

But I'm surprised by this:

Originally Posted by billyboy1962

I’m in the recording studio next month and am hoping to use the Venue (although the engineer has his own preferences

IMO, recording in the studio offers the guitarist:
1. a superior acoustic space
2. superior microphones
3. a skilled engineer who knows how to place those superior microphones in that superior acoustic space to get the best results with your particular instrument

If you record your guitar direct (that is using the Venue instead of micing), you are losing all those benefits. I think it's safe to say that the general consensus among recording musicians is that no plug-in solution (with the possible exception of the ToneDexter) comes anywhere close to the realistic beauty of a well-miced recording.

That said, you're the only one who knows what sound you are going for, so my apologies if my opinion is unnecessary or unwelcome.

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