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Old 11-20-2013, 08:24 AM
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Default Need help. Live sound w/ a powered mixer.

Hey everyone. I love this forum, and joined just so I could post this. I need some help:

I play an acoustic/electric Fender with a Fishman preamp. It's my first guitar; it cost about $300. I play gigs in several college town bars. I use a powered mixer, PA system for sound. I need help deciding on a new speaker.

Up till now I have been using two 12" Peavey passive speaker's like this. Typically I would use one as a monitor and one as a main. However, one speaker stopped working during my last show, and I've been wanting better speakers anyway. So what should I get?

I'm pretty knowledgeable about the equipment I use, but I don't know the ends and outs of all the other possibilities.

Here are some details:
I play by myself. Always a room inside, around 1600 sq. ft. I have a Behringer powered mixer; this one. I use an SM58 mic.

My budget is about $300. I would love to spend less than that, but if there is a great quality speaker I could get for my situation, I'll pay for it.

Also, as an aside, if there are any other small improvements I can make, please let me know. I still am very green. Just love playing music and I want it to sound as good as I can make it.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:34 AM
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Hey everyone. I love this forum, and joined just so I could post this. I need some help:

I play an acoustic/electric Fender with a Fishman preamp. It's my first guitar; it cost about $300. I play gigs in several college town bars. I use a powered mixer, PA system for sound. I need help deciding on a new speaker.

Up till now I have been using two 12" Peavey passive speaker's like this. Typically I would use one as a monitor and one as a main. However, one speaker stopped working during my last show, and I've been wanting better speakers anyway. So what should I get?

I'm pretty knowledgeable about the equipment I use, but I don't know the ends and outs of all the other possibilities.

Here are some details:
I play by myself. Always a room inside, around 1600 sq. ft. I have a Behringer powered mixer; this one. I use an SM58 mic.

My budget is about $300. I would love to spend less than that, but if there is a great quality speaker I could get for my situation, I'll pay for it.

Also, as an aside, if there are any other small improvements I can make, please let me know. I still am very green. Just love playing music and I want it to sound as good as I can make it.
With your $300, you could make a minor upgrade by getting something like an Electro-Voice ELX112 or ZLX-12, or you could sell the speaker to add a little more cash to you budget and seek out a used SX100 or SX300 (a more significant upgrade), but that's going to leave you without a monitor (although are you sure you really need one)?

I would think seriously about selling your present setup entirely and looking into something like this:

Allen and heath ZED10FX (about $250 or maybe a little less; and less used)

1 or 2 RCF 310a or 312a powered speakers (about $400 each--and I'd recommend the 310a, which is a little less, more than the 312a)

If you can do without a monitor for now (and I think you probably can), that would be under $700, minus whatever you make on selling your present rig. And this will be a significant improvement in flexibility, scalability, sound, portability, and reliability. As more money comes your way, you can simply add more speakers for both/either front of house or monitoring. If you need an inexpensive powered monitor, look at the Alto SXM112a. Another way to add a monitor for yourself is to look into a small acoustic combo amp like the Ultrasound DS-4 or the Fishman Loudbox Mini. You can put that on stage for yourself and either DI out to your mixer or use a preamp/DI or simple DI box to split your signal between the stage amp and the mixer.

For more money, there are also the powered speaker options from QSC (K series), Yamaha (DXR and DSR), JBL (PRX), and Electro-Voice (ZXA, ZLX, ELX), Yorkville (NX), and the higher-end RCF offerings, etc.

The primary advantage to using a powered speaker system is the built-in amp/speaker match and the processing that goes into them. It allows you to achieve a better sound without having to do any of that processing and matching yourself, that's all been done for you in a way optimized for the speaker. The fact that you can add as many speakers as you like or need is another advantage. I went over from a very servicable Yorkville powered mixer/passive speaker system a few years ago to the RCF/A&H rig I recommend above, and it was a very significant improvement.

Another way to go would be with one of the compact, portable solo performance units (hybrid PA/Combo amp designs). The usual suspects for a solo acoustic guitar/vocal act would be the Fishman SA220 and the Bose Compact, either of which can be gotten for under $1000, less used. Very portable and they don't require monitors, as long as you don't have to push them to hard and stand too close to them when you play.

Louis

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:42 AM
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Look for used EV SX100+. EV Speakers are great sounding speakers and can be found used in your price range.
Have you looked inside your Peavey Speaker that failed?
Maybe a simple fix like a disconnected connector or something else simple and visible ..
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