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As a fingerstyle guitarist, I'm a mutt. I'm not formally trained and learned various styles because they were dictated by the song I was pursuing.
When arranging and composing fingerstyle instrumentals. I have the melody or verse in my head and then work out the melody in the chords which then determines the chords and position. The pattern develops in this process; fitting the feel I need for the piece. FWIW- It's really important to build a foundation/palette of styles, chords, fingerings and phrases. These are learned from various resources as you learn and pursue musical interests/passions. I learned them as I pursued other artists, such as Tommy Emanuel. Mark Hanson has an approach I found easier for me to connect. Over the years I've gone to numerous fingerstyle resources when I needed new ideas. I learn much better visually so DVD's and YouTube have been great. You may not play music or parts exactly like the artists you learned from, or even play their music, but there are pieces, styles, chords, and phrasing that you can learn from and inject into your music. Those pieces and tidbits become the tonal palette influencing the creation of new works.
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I haven't read all the replies so this may have been said already.
You're not obligated to play all the notes in the arrangements. Hal Leonard won't show up at your door and confiscate your songbook if you only finger some of the notes. Hit the melody note and whatever else is in easy reach. Remember that those notes can be played in other places on the fretboard. I've seen arrangements with impossible finger stretches that can be played much more simply by playing one of the notes on the adjacent string. Exact same notes but much easier fingering. It makes me wonder what the arranger was thinking or if transcribing software created the error.
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There's nothing wrong with guidance and instruction to assist technique, but an awkward or poorly executed note-for-note phrase is much less appealing than a well done musical phrase in the musician's hand. Sadly, I've had and heard other guitarists, in a scolding manner, correct a guitarist for not playing note for note like the original artist.
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The following triads may be recognized as having their basis in simple first position fingerings...using only the requisite 1-3-5 notes of the scale in various inversions/positions: Wide open triads/extended 1st position forms C major 3 x 2 x 1 x [C/G form] x 3 x 0 x 0 [C form ]. or x 3 5 x 5 x [A form] x x 2 x 1 3 or x 7 x 5 8 x [C form] or x 7 x x 8 8 [G form] x x 5 x 5 8 [A form]. or x 10 x 9 x 8. [E form]
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Diatonic chord melody
This is just a taste of applying the above, the "bare bones" upon which you can add as you will, likewise set up your own rhythm. It is not meant to be an "arrangement" as such, just a bit of a fingering/voicing scheme to get you going.
Joy to the World, C major diatonic chord melody Joy x x 7 x 5 8 [C6/A] to x x 5 7 x 7 [G] the x x 3 5 x 5 [F] world x x 2 x 1 3 [C]
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I will say I also enjoy hearing and playing interesting and unexpected harmonies and chords under the melody. I believe you can steal ideas like this from the jazz world and incorporate them to great effect in the steel string acoustic world. |
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More JTTW: Joy to the World, part 2 Joy _______ x x 5(5)5 8 ___ [C] to ________ x 8 x 7 x 7 ___ [G7/F] the ____________ (10)__________ world_______ x 7 x 5 8 x ___ [C/E]
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Go for note for note if it helps you learn new techniques, or breaks you out of a rut, or you just like it as written (each note choice seeming to be just as it should be).
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You can play the notes in the F chord as you describe and get the 6th string F note by wrapping your thumb over the first fret. Might seem hard or awkward at first but a good technique to learn. This is a great tool to have for playing that chord in fingerstyle music. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Tremendous post Tony. |
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As others have indicated, the style you're looking for is chord melody, like Tommy Emmanuel and others from the Atkins tradition exemplify so proficiently. I'm also stumbling over that block, as are many here, because it's hard. It requires knowing some harmony and at least basic theory, to include chord inversions, extensions and substitutions and the ability to apply that to the guitar in a way that lets you find notes in ways that make sense physically and musically.
You can do this to some extent by finding videos on Youtube of people playing and teaching the songs you want to learn. For instance, I know there are lesson videos of Over the Rainbow, Moon River, Ain't Misbehavin', I Got Rhythm, Mr. Sandman, Cherokee, Wichita Lineman, etc., etc., just to name a few that I've looked at. You can learn a lot of songs that way, but it's other players' arrangements, which is not as satisfying as being able to improvise or create your own. If you want to get serious about it, the Berklee Modern Method for Guitar, Vol. 1, takes a very common sense approach to teaching notation, harmony, chord structure and shapes, ear training, and other aspects of music education for guitar. It provides tablature reinforcement for the first few lessons, but assumes you will eventually wean yourself from that, which is not that hard. The new versions include a CD with supplemental material. There are a lot of other books too, obviously, but the Berklee Method is widely regarded as a good and user-friendly developmental tool. The bottom line is that the music you want to play is the reward for a fair amount of applied study--if you want to do it right. That's why so few of us excel at that style of play. |
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http://www.guitarnick.com/index.html https://www.guitarforbeginners.com/F...r-Lessons.html
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