Your Recommendation: Best P/U under $200 that is EASIEST to install - Page 2

roylor4 · #16 02-26-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Charmed Life Picks

Vin, thanks to you and the other folks above who have mentioned this.

Question: When installing this, is it also recommended to put a black soundcover behind it?

Thanks Again. Appreciate it.

scott

I don't think you would need one. They are very feedback resistant, as are most magnetic pups. You would have to be at band levels and in close proximity to your speaker(s) to produce feedback IME.

jonfields45 · #17 02-27-2019, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Charmed Life Picks

I've been reading a fair number of those posts, but it seems to me a number of people have posted about having to move the location of the different sensors quite a few times to locate the sweet spot. That is my main concern with that rig.

thanks,
scott

I think this is classic AGF. If it can be moved, it will be moved, and someone will say it was essential for some change that possibly only they can hear.

Given the simplicity of (re) installation, no batteries in the guitar, and no stuff in the sound hole, it seems like a great option and I'm thinking about putting one in my CO-PA.

To me the only downside, as with a K&K, is you will need a preamp to plug into a mixer (it will work fine direct to a guitar amp or other ~1M ohm load -- which is in reality all that preamp really does for you).

Charmed Life Picks · #18 02-27-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jonfields45

I think this is classic AGF. If it can be moved, it will be moved, and someone will say it was essential for some change that possibly only they can hear.

Given the simplicity of (re) installation, no batteries in the guitar, and no stuff in the sound hole, it seems like a great option and I'm thinking about putting one in my CO-PA.

To me the only downside, as with a K&K, is you will need a preamp to plug into a mixer (it will work fine direct to a guitar amp or other ~1M ohm load -- which is in reality all that preamp really does for you).

John, thanks. Appreciate your input.

scott

dogdog49 · #19 02-27-2019, 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=jonfields45;5991646]I think this is classic AGF. If it can be moved, it will be moved, and someone will say it was essential for some change that possibly only they can hear.

Great post, funny and often all too true!

Charmed Life Picks · #20 02-27-2019, 07:33 PM

We're a funny, wonderful, sometimes batty group. I lead the pack.

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Charmed Life Picks · #21 03-05-2019, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by roylor4

Seymour Duncan Woody XL

Thanks for the suggestion.

Can someone explain to me why the black version of this same pickup costs $40 more? I assume it's the same internally.

thanks,
scott

hotroad · #22 03-07-2019, 07:16 PM

I gig a lot and use a variety of pickups but the Shatten HFN passive is great. For an even easier install at the soundhole is a LR Baggs M80 or M1 as someone already recommended. If you are like a lot of us one day you will end up with a drawer full of pickups.

Charmed Life Picks · #23 03-08-2019, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hotroad

I gig a lot and use a variety of pickups but the Shatten HFN passive is great. For an even easier install at the soundhole is a LR Baggs M80 or M1 as someone already recommended. If you are like a lot of us one day you will end up with a drawer full of pickups.

Hotroad, thanks for the tips. I tend to not change out stuff. I just have the time. So I always do a lot of research up front, make my decision, and pull the trigger. I do the same thing with guitars, rarely buying on impulse. I research A LOT before purchasing.

Thanks again,
Scott

JackB1 · #24 04-25-2019, 01:17 PM

Scott....what did you decide to go with? Did you go with the Shatten and how
hard was the install? I have a Martin with a crappy Sonitone and want to replace it myself if possible.

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Originally Posted by Charmed Life Picks

Hotroad, thanks for the tips. I tend to not change out stuff. I just have the time. So I always do a lot of research up front, make my decision, and pull the trigger. I do the same thing with guitars, rarely buying on impulse. I research A LOT before purchasing.

Thanks again,
Scott

jonfields45 · #25 04-25-2019, 03:40 PM

BTW that HFN is in my CO-PA. After EQ (bass boost, treble cut, well within the control of my mixer), it sounds great! I'm still gigging with my Mi-Si as I've got too much experience with that pickup and how to put a lead line over the top (volume wise) without getting into any problems (too shrill or feedback). At the end of the day I'm still imagining I'm the lead guitarist in my high school rock band (I'm 62 in July)...

Charmed Life Picks · #26 04-25-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

Scott....what did you decide to go with? Did you go with the Shatten and how
hard was the install? I have a Martin with a crappy Sonitone and want to replace it myself if possible.

Jack, hi, thanks for writing. Sorry, I've just been so slammed, I don't see this happening till at least June. The Shatten sounds interesting, along with a few others. I really want to do the install myself, even though I can afford to pay out, because I enjoy doing stuff with my hands. But I'm a perfectionist and a little nerdy in that way, so I need to find a block of time.

How about you? Any thoughts?

Thanks Much, Jack. Let's keep in touch,

Scott

JackB1 · #27 04-25-2019, 08:35 PM

Sounds good. Keep me posted. I haven’t decided yet but not sure I want to attempt the install myself. But this is just a second spare guitar so I want to keep it low cost. My main guitar has the Aura pickup which is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Charmed Life Picks

Jack, hi, thanks for writing. Sorry, I've just been so slammed, I don't see this happening till at least June. The Shatten sounds interesting, along with a few others. I really want to do the install myself, even though I can afford to pay out, because I enjoy doing stuff with my hands. But I'm a perfectionist and a little nerdy in that way, so I need to find a block of time.

How about you? Any thoughts?

Thanks Much, Jack. Let's keep in touch,

Scott

phcorrigan · #28 04-28-2019, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jonfields45

To me the only downside, as with a K&K, is you will need a preamp to plug into a mixer (it will work fine direct to a guitar amp or other ~1M ohm load -- which is in reality all that preamp really does for you).

Some mixers, such as the Behringer XR18 digital mixer, have high impedance, or "Hi-Z," inputs. On the XR18, the first two inputs are 1 meg when unbalanced (TS) cables are plugged in and 2 meg when balanced (TRS) cables are plugged in.

But yes, most mixers do not have Hi-Z inputs.

jay7347 · #29 04-29-2019, 10:43 AM

I confess I've always been a K&K guy. I put one in my first Lowden, had two put in my harp guitar and now have one in my current Lowden. As I said, I managed to put one in my first Lowden, it wasn't easy but everything worked out fine. I have to agree with those who talk about the impedance issue as I just switched to a Red Eye over my long time LR Baggs Venue DI on my Acoustic/Electric pedalboard. Things seem much cleaner/crisper. So bottom line, under $200 and doable.

-jay

M Hayden · #30 05-03-2019, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverSteve

Easiest to install will always be a sound-hole pickup. Lots of good ones but, in my opinion, your best ones will be more in the $300 range.

+1

Passive mags, in particular, plug into anything from a guitar amp to a PA with relative aplomb and don’t require impedence matching pres or whatnot - they’ll benefit from it, but you’ll get a perfectly usable sound just plugging a cable from the guitar to the amp. It’s sort of a minimalist setup, but it often works surprisingly well.