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Old 09-21-2019, 09:13 PM
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I played both and while Iím not real experienced in Brazilian rosewood a couple of things struck me. First the 46 00028 (top pic) was noticeably heavier. Neck was thick as well. Second the 46 00028 was brighter. It has a Sitka top. I just assumed given it was rosewood it would be darker, perhaps because Iím used to east Indian rosewood. But it had a brightness and bite, maybe even a reed-iness that the 000-18 (bottom pic) didnít have. The 000-18 seemed dry and more midrange if that makes sense. It also sounded slightly louder perhaps because it was lighter and the bracing. Anyhow seems like thereís room for both but I found the differences interesting. Not sure if it was the type of wood or year of construction/bracing. Iíd be interested in hearing your thoughts.
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Gorgeous pair! Brazilian is not a light weight wood. Also the tone is different than EIR... it's more 'glassy' and reverby sounding and the bass response isn't as dark.

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My thoughts are, if these are both your guitars, you are blessed. Those are very cool. I'll leave tone comments to others, I'm just stunned by the cool factor. Wow, how sweet it is.
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Rosewood is denser than Mahogany, hence a guitar with a Rosewood back and sides will be heavier than one with Mahogany. each will color the tone differently.

Depending on when in '44 the 000-18 was built, it may have straight bracing or it may have scalloped bracing. The '46 would be scalloped. Bracing also effects tone.
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My thoughts are, if these are both your guitars, you are blessed. Those are very cool. I'll leave tone comments to others, I'm just stunned by the cool factor. Wow, how sweet it is.


Thanks my friend. Itís been several years in progress and couldnít pull together the funds for a prewar 00021 or 00028 so found the best I could for the price I could pay which was a 46. Hereís the lot. Far left is early 60s 00-21 and mid 20s 00-18 12 fretters (no scrunched upper bouts for me on the 00).
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Rosewood is denser than Mahogany, hence a guitar with a Rosewood back and sides will be heavier than one with Mahogany. each will color the tone differently.

Depending on when in '44 the 000-18 was built, it may have straight bracing or it may have scalloped bracing. The '46 would be scalloped. Bracing also effects tone.
I think the 46 bracing would be tapered but not scalloped (the 44 would be scalloped). Plus the 44 would have an Adirondack top, whereas the 46 would be Sitka.
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I think the 46 bracing would be tapered but not scalloped (the 44 would be scalloped). Plus the 44 would have an Adirondack top, whereas the 46 would be Sitka.


Yes. This is correct
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Thanks my friend. Itís been several years in progress and couldnít pull together the funds for a prewar 00021 or 00028 so found the best I could for the price I could pay which was a 46. Hereís the lot. Far left is early 60s 00-21 and mid 20s 00-18 12 fretters (no scrunched upper bouts for me on the 00).
Wow!!! You are most certainly blessed. That would more or less be my dream collection.
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I bought them after some false advertising. Keith Richard said a guitar only has six strings and seven notes, how hard can it be? So I figured why not in my 40s. Turns out, really hard!
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